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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 12:37
by MvanD
-edit- already posted

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 17:28
by GuiliClayder
emelenjr wrote:It's like Christmas in September! Clavia Support wrote me again today and let me download 64-bit versions of Sound Manager and the Nord Electro OS updater. If I weren't traveling at the moment, I'd have my Nord with me, but I can confirm that what Clavia is currently beta-testing works with what Apple is currently beta-testing, as in the apps actually open up.

Now that there's a new answer to the question that's central to this post topic, i thought it deserved an update. I'll test the apps out more thoroughly when I can, but it looks like Clavia is at least 90% there in terms of being ready for Catalina. Cheers, all.
Good. Now all we need are iOS versions of their software and we'll really have moved into the 21st century.
This will sound like an annoying rant, and I do recognize the quality of Nord products, but with the prices they're charging, they owe it to their (demanding) customers to support as many platforms as possible.
The fact that they're a small company compared to the likes of Roland or Yamaha is no excuse. Premium prices equal premium support. Full stop.
Imagine buying a BMW 5-series that doesn't support Apple Carplay...

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 17:59
by analogika
AFAIK, BMW has actually started charging a subscription fee for using CarPlay.

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 23:56
by PScooter63
analogika wrote:AFAIK, BMW has actually started charging a subscription fee for using CarPlay.
They announced their intentions to do this in January 2018, and started enforcing it this past July. Ostensibly for ongoing testing and development. :wtf:

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 09:22
by GuiliClayder
analogika wrote:AFAIK, BMW has actually started charging a subscription fee for using CarPlay.
To be honest, that doesn't surprise me. As a premium brand, they assume their customers have bags of money anyway. That's what premium brands do, really.
Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nord starts charging for new sounds in the future. After all, if people are willing to spend the money in order to have the best, why give it away for free ?

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 09:24
by cgrafx
GuiliClayder wrote:
analogika wrote:AFAIK, BMW has actually started charging a subscription fee for using CarPlay.
To be honest, that doesn't surprise me. As a premium brand, they assume their customers have bags of money anyway. That's what premium brands do, really.
Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nord starts charging for new sounds in the future. After all, if people are willing to spend the money in order to have the best, why give it away for free ?
I would be extremely surprised because Nord's entire history and business model is predicated on them not doing that.

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 10:41
by Tracii
cgrafx wrote:
GuiliClayder wrote:Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nord starts charging for new sounds in the future. After all, if people are willing to spend the money in order to have the best, why give it away for free ?
I would be extremely surprised because Nord's entire history and business model is predicated on them not doing that.
It would certainly drive away many people.

However, I'm pretty sure that I am not the only Nord user who has never downloaded anything, because I'm quite happy with the factory settings. If (!) they made their boards less expensive, I for one wouldn't have a problem with Nord selling their sounds.

Then again, they probably won't live off customers like me. ;)

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 12:46
by CountFosco
GuiliClayder wrote: they owe it to their (demanding) customers ...
Maybe. Are you one? We sometimes get these threads where the most dissatisfied posters are ones who are not ones, which intrigues me no end. (I've just made a pinky promise to myself to be the last poster in this thread)

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 13:22
by GuiliClayder
CountFosco wrote:
GuiliClayder wrote: they owe it to their (demanding) customers ...
Maybe. Are you one?
Probably not. I mean, I settled for a Kawai MP11SE, with sounds that seem excellent to my ears, not to mention the fabulous keybed...

Seriously, though, I considered the Nord Grand for a short time, but honestly, paying 60% more for 'better' sounds, and at the same time taking a step back as far as keybed is concerned... Don't think so.
On the other hand, if Nord had put the Kawai Grand Feel keybed in the Grand, I might have forked out the extra cash. All depends on what is considered to be premium. And for me, that's the keybed.
For the price of the Nord Grand, I'm sure it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect both, premium sounds AND a premium keybed.

Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 13:28
by CountFosco
GuiliClayder wrote:
Probably not... I mean... not to mention ...

Seriously, though... but honestly... Don't think so...On the other hand... I might have ...All depends...
so, no?