NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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anotherscott wrote: the Electro 5 had a setting where the keys above the split point would transmit on a different channel, so you could control an external module on the top (alone, or layered with a Nord sound) while playing the Nord sound on the bottom. I think this is the only Electro that had a feature like that.
anotherscott - Wow what an especially useful feature! You have made me feel so sad now! :|
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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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monsterjazzlicks wrote:
anotherscott wrote: the Electro 5 had a setting where the keys above the split point would transmit on a different channel, so you could control an external module on the top (alone, or layered with a Nord sound) while playing the Nord sound on the bottom. I think this is the only Electro that had a feature like that.
anotherscott - Wow what an especially useful feature! You have made me feel so sad now! :|
Your NE6 does a number of things that cannot be done on the NE5, and I'd probably pick these advancements over the MIDI tradeoff that could have occurred when they were offering the newer capabilities. Only Nord knows about the feature capabilities/limitations for each instrument. I finally got over the fact that I can do a "Pending Load" on my NS2 and that feature was not ever implemented in the NS3.
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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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I have found a device that can be made to filter MIDI into different zones - the Midi Solutions MIDI Event Processor. For now, this box (paired with a MIDI mute switch) seems like a decent workaround for what I was trying to accomplish (left hand bass from external synth played from the Nord). The only downside is that once the note range and MIDI channel for the "External" zone is set, I don't think I'll be able to adjust it without a computer. Patches that use the pseudo-external section will all have to use the same split point to function properly. I think this will work well enough.
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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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Revan5159 wrote:I have found a device that can be made to filter MIDI into different zones - the Midi Solutions MIDI Event Processor. For now, this box (paired with a MIDI mute switch) seems like a decent workaround for what I was trying to accomplish (left hand bass from external synth played from the Nord). The only downside is that once the note range and MIDI channel for the "External" zone is set, I don't think I'll be able to adjust it without a computer. Patches that use the pseudo-external section will all have to use the same split point to function properly. I think this will work well enough.
That is one possible solution, with the limits you just said; another "box" that can do the same but with much more programmability and flexibility (and cost) is the Lab4View Sipario; otherwise you can also use an iPad/iPhone with Camelot (or similar app) and Apple USB Adapter + a USB hub (to connect the two keyboards to it).
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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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monsterjazzlicks wrote:I would BEG to have this very feature installed on the Electro 6! :shifty:

I think the other aspect whose absence users complain about is the 'song-list'? - of which I have no experience.
The setlist feature and other 5 vs 6 differences are well described at nord-electro-forum-f9/which-electro-t15820.html - each has advantages over the other. I think one other difference not discussed there is how you assign EQ and whether you can assign it to multiple sounds.
ericL wrote:I finally got over the fact that I can do a "Pending Load" on my NS2 and that feature was not ever implemented in the NS3.
maxpiano mentioned the idea of using an iPad to add MIDI zoning to the NE6. Using an iPad (or smartphone) app to do Program Changes is kind of another way to do Pending Load (you can scroll the screen to the next sound you need, and then click to activate it at the moment you need it), as well as a way to get some of the aforementioned Set List functionality (by letting you create lists of re-ordered sounds at will). Yeah, it would be nice if these earlier features were still built into the current boards, but there is at least a way to get pretty much the same functionality.
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ericL wrote:Your NE6 does a number of things that cannot be done on the NE5, and I'd probably pick these advancements over the MIDI tradeoff that could have occurred when they were offering the newer capabilities. Only Nord knows about the feature capabilities/limitations for each instrument. I finally got over the fact that I can do a "Pending Load" on my NS2 and that feature was not ever implemented in the NS3.
Hi Eric,

Well I suppose it's a case of horses for courses. I always seem to be in the minority! :shock:

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Revan5159 wrote:I have found a device that can be made to filter MIDI into different zones - the Midi Solutions MIDI Event Processor. For now, this box (paired with a MIDI mute switch) seems like a decent workaround for what I was trying to accomplish (left hand bass from external synth played from the Nord). The only downside is that once the note range and MIDI channel for the "External" zone is set, I don't think I'll be able to adjust it without a computer. Patches that use the pseudo-external section will all have to use the same split point to function properly. I think this will work well enough.
Revan,

"pseudo-external section" - what do you mean by this term, please?

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Re: NE6 "External Keyboard to Lo" - only works one-way?

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Hi AnotherScott,
anotherscott wrote:Depends on you needs, but probably. Personally, I wouldn't have a lot of use for the ability to play all 3 engines at the same time vs. only 2, but seamless sound transitions are really nice, as is extra sample memory. And while there's no apparent immediate benefit to the new .nsmp3 sample format, it is likely there will be in the future. Also, it's nice to have most of the clav EQ options back again. You do lose some MIDI flexibility, and you have Organize mode instead of Set List mode (which is probably a bit of a backwards step, but simpler), so it's not the right choice for everyone. Even taking price out of the equation.
Well yes, LOTS of information in that thread, thanks!

I have to say, I'm addicted to the 512MB sample-memory, and also the seamless-transition capabilities. I would never trade them for anything because these two factors alone have helped transform my playing. ;)

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anotherscott wrote:. . . and you have Organize mode instead of Set List mode (which is probably a bit of a backwards step, but simpler) . . .
To be honest, I have not really delved into this parameter, but I have seen/read quite a few frustrated comments from those upgrading their Electro models. I'll get around to this feature at some point I dare say . . .
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