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Re: Stage 2 vs Piano 5

Posted: 27 Feb 2022, 19:20
by anotherscott
Oh yes, I forgot about the variable of the aftertouch strip, which could alter the landing, good point.

Re: Stage 2 vs Piano 5

Posted: 27 Feb 2022, 20:35
by maxpiano
anotherscott wrote:Oh yes, I forgot about the variable of the aftertouch strip, which could alter the landing, good point.
I always wonder how much does it really, at the end of the day if you ever opened a keyboard and look at the actual thickness of the AT strip... don't know, probably it does to some extent, but I still believe that velocity curves/response play the main part (I can see how much it matters e.g. when I use the Rav275 on the iPad and play with its velocity curve, without touching the master's touch response)

Re: Stage 2 vs Piano 5

Posted: 28 Feb 2022, 07:47
by cphollis
@maxpiano -- I found it depended on the material. Maybe I'd be OK for 95% of the time, but when it was a bother, it was a real bother. Things like hammering out 16th note fifths quickly, percussive chords and similar were a mess, but worked perfectly on a non-aftertouch board. Maybe I could have learned to overcome it, but ... the new NS3 had just came out, so ....

Re: Stage 2 vs Piano 5

Posted: 28 Feb 2022, 11:23
by maxpiano
cphollis wrote:@maxpiano -- I found it depended on the material. Maybe I'd be OK for 95% of the time, but when it was a bother, it was a real bother. Things like hammering out 16th note fifths quickly, percussive chords and similar were a mess, but worked perfectly on a non-aftertouch board. Maybe I could have learned to overcome it, but ... the new NS3 had just came out, so ....
Sure cphollis, I didn't mean your perception was not accurate, that was not my intent, just sharing some thoughts and since you mention fast repetitions, I still think that 3rd sensor and velocity curve play a relevant part in that case, but regardless technicalities one has to choose what he/she finds best to play :thumbup:

Re: Stage 2 vs Piano 5

Posted: 01 Mar 2022, 00:39
by nordkeys
anotherscott wrote:
maxpiano wrote:I think also the weighting is different, NS2 uses a TP40L while NP5 should use a TP40M at least (if I remember well from other discussions), however for sure velocity curves and software (Virtual Hammer Action and usage of third sensor) probably make the biggest part of the perceived difference (if any)
NS2 used the TP40M... or at least definitely not the TP40L, a lighter action that Kurzweil has often used. Though it is possible that the NP5 uses a heavier-than-M version of the TP40. (And thanks for mentioning the third sensor, which I forgot about, though is still not something that has an impact on feel per se.)
I can confirm the Piano 5 has the TP40H. Nord gave me the answer.