Funny story....

[bartley99]

I'm now used to the draw-buttons. I have the ocean beach drawbars attached but it's nice to see the patch when you select a setting. I can easily see the current setting and tweak as I play. If I am going to just pull on one drawbar, I tend to find myself reaching for the buttons. I grab the ocean beach drawbars when I need more juice, fast. I thought that not having drawbars was going to be a challenge. After playing for 30 minutes, the draw-buttons felt comfortable. So, there are advantages to the draw buttons over standard drawbars.

Every Hammond I've been fortunate to play always had their quirks and character. They never sounded exactly the same. The drawbars had quirks. I look at playing the C2 the same way.

I can't wait to hear the 122 on a high quality recording. The NAMM show versions are all "handy-cam" with crappy audio...unless someone knows of a link to better vids. They have their work cut our for them to be comparable to the ventilator.

I do hope nord includes the key-click (hopefully with more spit) and perc models from the c2d as updates for the C2...we'll see.

Happy Organing...

[Mooser]

I still want to know two (2) things! What do the "authentic" drawbars do when you switch organ presets, or organ type? The Nord Drawbuttons always reflect the exact setting and type of organ. What do the drawbars do?

And what is the price of a C2D?

BTW, try the drawbuttons on the "slow-movement" setting in your system menu. At the slower speed, they move at just about the speed you would pull a drawbar. The fast speed is too fast.

Also, don't get stuck at the "high-trigger" key engagement, just cause it is there. I think the oprgan plays better at the "low-trigger". Sure any sensible person would say:"If that's what Mooser thinks, the high-trigger must be better" but give it a try.

[Hanon_CTS]

I still want to know two (2) things!

What do the "authentic" drawbars do when you switch organ presets, or organ type? The Nord Drawbuttons always reflect the exact setting and type of organ.

What do the drawbars do?

And what is the price of a C2D?

That's actually three (3) things.

[Mooser]

"That's actually three (3) things."

Well, as the old (and in my opinion, sexist and tasteless) song says: "Two out of three ain't bad". If that's the song I am thinking of, which I won't guarantee. And you will have a hell of a time if you go the "implied warranty" route, I'll fight you every step of the way.

[Mooser]

I don't understand why Clavia didn't try and evolve-improve the drawbutton system, instead of regressing to drawbars. Here's a couple of ideas:
1) the two buttons could be a rocker, or a tab. More natural action. Pull toward you for more, push away for less. It could even look like a drawbar "head" (the brown, white or black plastic part you touch)
2) the rocker or tab to operate the tone could be "velocity sensitive". Press it softly, move one position, press it harder, more movement. Several different curves could be a choice in the menu.
3) Eliminate the buttons completely, widen the LEDs a bit, and have the LED follow the movement of a finger over its surface, drag fingers down for more, up for less.

Those are just three of the many ways to retain the advantages of the LED system while making the feel of the drawbuttons more ergonomically intuitive, the drawbar's main advantage.
Of course, if Nord-Clavia wanted to advance me $500,000 for further research, I would start by flying to Sweden, and then keep right on going. I'm not gonna freeze in Stockholm if I've got enough cash to get to the Bahamas.

[bartley99]

Just saw the upgrade for the C2. I knew Nord would come through. Whatever the opposite of buyers-remorse is, I have it.

To all of Nord....THANK YOU so much for the C2 upgrade!! You got a customer for life.

Hugs and Kisses to all of Sweden....

Chris

[Mooser]

"To all of Nord....THANK YOU so much for the C2 upgrade!! You got a customer for life.'

Very much so! In marketing terms, offering the C2 upgrade, (not to mention pricing the C2D so LOW. You don't think so? Then look around and see what else gives you the 38-drawbar console. Only the high-level Hammond-Suzuki B3Mk2 models, and they run 15-20,000) is pratically suicide. It was generous and thoughtful of Nord.

But since this is a funny story thread, I've got one. Well, it was a tragic time for me, and I don't mind telling you that Hell's foundations quivered for a bit, but now I'm back in the pink, on velvet, and ready to talk about it. It happened end of June. About three years ago, I purchased a Motion Sound Pro-3x rotary horn amplifier. I liked it, but I always felt the noise floor was much too high for what it cost. I called the factory, and they promised to send me a new "main amp board" as soon as they got them in. Okay, I waited, I called, and after months and months, they finally sent me one, and charged a nominal fee. Very good. I had waited so long for it, and hated the excess noise so much! But still, the sensible part of my brain said: "Listen, Mooser, the thing works, even if it's a bit noisy, so put this board on the shelf, and use the old one until it fails, or you are entirely sure you understand how it goes in". The little devil on my shoulder said: "Don't listen to Mr. Sensible! You've waited a year for this board, and after all, didn't you re-cap your A-100 sucessfully, in one overnight session? Go ahead put it in!" So I did, and when I flipped the "on" switch there was a noise like the Last Trump and sparks! I blew up the board! Oh crap! "Okay" I told myself, "Steady on, old son, you've still got the old board" So I put that one back in, and blew it up, too. "For God's sake" I said, whitelipped and trembling (or are they my accountants?) "Don't panic, just call Motion Sound and order another one" So I went to the web, and boing! No Motion Sound website! No one answered the phone, and e-mails bounced back. They had just gone out of business that day!! Well, I didn't take it too hard, I just stopped eating, and began wearing a hairshirt and flogging myself with a chain. I felt like a guy who went hunting and shot his own beloved dog, or the guy who bought a new motorcycle, parked it in the driveway, and then later hopped into his truck, flipped the autogarage door open, and backed out over his new bike! I was pretty low down among the wines and spirits, neck deep in the soup, and wondered where on earth death's jolly old sting had got to. In fact, going gently into that dark night looked like the best option about then....What was I supposed to do, use Leslie Sim? Nooooo!
Anyway, I have a friend, Barry, who comes over every Saturday morning for a music lesson. Well, Barry works at the public TV station KCTS, and I had always thought his job was to go after recalcitrant contributers and remind them they can keep their kids or their public TV membership, and they better make up their minds which, or something like that. Or maybe he played the romantic heavy in Spanish-language educational novelas produced at KCTS, I never really knew. Well, Barry noticed my distress, and asked me what was wrong, and I told him, between sobs, and long pulls at the gin-bottle, and banging my head on the floor. (I was trying to show him I wasn't upset)
"For God's sake, stop sniveling, Mooser, and wipe your nose" Barry said, offering me his hankercheif. I took one look at it, and went to find a paper towel or something. "What the hell do you think I do all day, and have been doing since I was a teenager?" he said, and added "Get me a strong light, a VOM, a magnifying glass and a soldering iron and some thin insulated wire." I brought them, and he said "You call this a soldering iron? Get me a file!"
Anyway, in fifteen minutes he had analysed the problem: some of the SCRs controlling the rotary horn motor should be grounded to the heat sink, and some insulated electrically from it, and I didn't understand this when I tried to put it in, and I had burned out a "trace" which supplied them with voltage. He "jumpered" the circuit board, as he's been doing since he was a wee tot,(that was some deft soldering, I must say) bolted it down with the right insulators, and I began to live again as the horn rotated and sound above 800hz swelled forth.
And life goes on, I've regained the four pounds I lost that week, and I've even stopped shaking. I still break out in sobs when I think about it, but you know what they say: "Time wounds all heels". I guess it's true. Oh, what about the noise floor? Funny I forgot all about that. It works again, that's all that matters.