NS3 polyphony

[lordy]

34 voices polyphony is not true.
Take 2 samp in layer, 12 max notes
take 1 samp , 24 max notes

Not a problem for me, just i don't like lies.

[Valpurgis]

And this «lie» is verifyed with Clavia Nord?

[LudovicVDP]

Stereo?
2 stereo samples = 4 polyphony per note.

[alcools]

Stereo?
2 stereo samples = 4 polyphony per note.

Seriously ?
No, nobody's counting like that

[Mr_-G-]

I have no idea if in the NS3 the synth is 24 or 34, but indeed (sorry alcools), some people do count like that.
Apparently the Motif gets reduced polyphony if you use stereo samples. See the post by kilon here:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/6829306-post15.html
The NS2/EX has no fixed polyphony in the piano section, see for yourself, 40 to 60.
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ifications.
When you are dealing with layers, the synthesizers in other Nords has always have half the voices when you use the both (or more in the Leads) panels.
NS2 is, if I remember right 18 (1 panel) or 9 (both panels).

It could be that 34 is a typo and it is actually 24. A typo like that comes at a very bad time...
Or maybe it is 34 only with certain oscillator configuration. That is also so in many synths like the Virus.

[maxpiano]

Stereo?
2 stereo samples = 4 polyphony per note.

Seriously ?
No, nobody's counting like that

That's exactly how it works on most workstations, such as the Motif series and others, that count "voices" by operators and that in case of stereo samples allocate 2 "voices" (one per channel/sample).

@Mr_-G-: I am afraid 34 is not a typo, because it is the same on the comparison charts; so if 34 is correct then, even assuming 2 voices being used in case of stereo samples, that would still not match lordy's numbers: any other NS3 here who can double check and test the same?

[DanielD71]

On the specs chart, there is only reference for stereo/mono in the piano section and it is the same now : 120
There is no reference of stereo/mono in the synth section and the chart is 34,not 24.

So we should be able to play 17 notes in stereo before having issues with polyphony.
For the seamless program, I would only hold 8 notes in stereo (16 voice) if my second program has the same stereo 2 layers setup. Nord did not indicate the ratio stereo vs mono like we have in the piano section.

Regards

[Mr_-G-]

@Mr_-G-: I am afraid 34 is not a typo, because it is the same on the comparison charts; so if 34 is correct then, even assuming 2 voices being used in case of stereo samples, that would still not match lordy's numbers: any other NS3 here who can double check and test the same?

It is not unthinkable to be due to a typo in some other documentation they referred to when they wrote the webpages, and so it gets repeated.

If you look at the main NS3 page it just says 'extended polyphony' and indeed still 24(NS3?) > 18 (NS2/EX).
Or perhaps it was 34 in the released firmware and it is not any more in the latest one (like the Dual KBD issue)? Did anybody try?
Do we know if the polyphony in the NS3 is dependent on the other engines being on? It does not seem to be so in the NS2 but...

Rather that assuming deception, it would be much more useful to email Clavia and raise the issue directly.
It would be in their interest to clarify it, typo or a bug, whichever is the case.

[baekgaard]

I just did a very rough test of the synth section. Depending on the exact way I play and what tone I use (simple sine wave, sample based, etc), I typically get around 28-30 voices before it starts cutting out some, with a bit of variation. There appear to be no difference (from a quick test) between stereo and mono samples (I've counted 28 stereo voices in one test I did). Doubling the voices (using two synth sections) of course cuts the (effective) polyphony in half.

On a few occasions, I've been observed cut voices in just a bit more than 20 voices in total, so maybe there are some weird combinations that cause a premature voice stealing; I'm not sure how it works. Could be a bug as well.

The number of voices do not appear to change when switching on/off the seamless transition feature (when you don't have "old" voices hanging around), but of course any seamless voices that continue to sound will count towards the total number of used voices.

[LudovicVDP]

Stereo?
2 stereo samples = 4 polyphony per note.

Seriously ?
No, nobody's counting like that

Have a look here. I had the same issue.

http://www.norduserforum.com/nord-stage ... 13100.html