the MONO button

[afroskully]

I tried to get this answered in the mono vs stereo thread in the general nord forum, but i figured it deserved it's own thread here.

I'd like to know how people manage using their electros in mono. From what I've read, the mono button enabled attempts to blend the R and L signals. If that's true, does it matter which output you use when it's enabled?

Also, I've read some people don't use the mono button enabled and just use the R output.

What's your mono strategy and why? I tend to go stereo into a traynor K4, but when the PA calls for mono, I have been using the R out with mono enabled, but I'm not sure that's the right way to go.

Thanks!

[pablomastodon]

definitely a personal preference thing...try it every which way and see what your ears think about it...personally, when running mono I do not use mono button and just pick one of the two outputs without really paying any attention to which one...but that's just me

bless, pablo

[costaseglezos]

On my NS2, I tell the FOH to get both channels and sum them out.
Another way is to run my keyboard in stereo through my yamaha stagepas for the stage and give the FOH the Left/MONO out of the console.

No MONO button for me. I 'm not sure even if it has to be "saved" in the NS2 programs or it's a global parameter...
I think MONO sucks, no matter how...

[costaseglezos]

While I agree that stereo sounds so much better than mono, maybe it would be best to try and do an objective test with a recording as single channel (while in stereo), mono and summed.
In theory, the mono button might still sound better than the summing, because according to Clavia, the summing is weighted, so it is possible that the phase cancellation might be less than just with the summing.
With single channel you have no cancellation, but still miss the other full channel. It might also depend how each stereo sample has been done, originally.

[costaseglezos]

While I agree that stereo sounds so much better than mono, maybe it would be best to try and do an objective test with a recording as single channel (while in stereo), mono and summed.
In theory, the mono button might still sound better than the summing, because according to Clavia, the summing is weighted, so it is possible that the phase cancellation might be less than just with the summing.
With single channel you have no cancellation, but still miss the other full channel. It might also depend how each stereo sample has been done, originally.

Maybe you 're right, that's the way, I 've just haven't really been into it.
I just checked that the MONO button is a global setting, so it's easy to adjust it just before start playing.

In that case, do we need both the two output channels of the NS2, or it is L=R and the FOH can take just one output?
Dear Pablo?

[costaseglezos]

do I understand correctly that the question is when running MONO should two outputs be connected? c'mon Costas, you know better than that...

[costaseglezos]

yeah...

[afroskully]

In theory, the mono button might still sound better than the summing, because according to Clavia, the summing is weighted, so it is possible that the phase cancellation might be less than just with the summing.
With single channel you have no cancellation, but still miss the other full channel. It might also depend how each stereo sample has been done, originally.

Can you explain what "the summing is weighted" means? Thanks

[afroskully]

I do not know, it was reported as sombeody at Clavia letting a forum member know (who posted here some time ago). The post said that it was not just the straight mix of both channels and there was some degree unavoidable phase cancellation in the middle of the kbd). I guess that the mixing could be based on the note position that is being played, but that is me guessing.

[pablomastodon]

I would chime in here, but do not know the answer myself...