Does B3 organ simulation differ in Electro 5D vs. Stage 2EX?

[pablomastodon]

Now NS2EX comes with the same C2D engine, the tweaked 3rd generation, but with ONLY ONE, not both, of the 122 models.

...I hope you don't mind if I ask for clarification because this topic is important to me...Are you saying that the NS2 EX has an updated leslie sim but only one of those?

Is this a conspiracy to drive me insane? Yes, when I say that the NS2EX comes with ONLY ONE (emphasis original) of the 122 models it means that the NS2EX comes with only one of the 122 models.

Edit - the Nord site shows the organ engine as still generation 2 ( C2 )???? I'm confused....

If you include a reference to the specific webpage it might be useful. In any event, if what you say is accurate info, then it's a typo. In the comparison chart it sez Gen 3:

http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart

Pablo

[Gospelkeys]

Guess you did mind

Not trying to drive anyone insane.....

I saw the statement: "Now NS2EX comes with the same C2D engine" - it appears what you meant to say was ""Now NS2EX comes with the same C2 engine" - or B3 engine on NS2 and NS2EX are identical.

I've got it - no more questions on this topic I promise.


All the best.....

[williehackitt]

Hi guys i have just bought the 5d can anyone tell me if when using 2 sounds ie piano and sample can you use chorus on both sounds i cant seem to find it in the manual thanks

[maxpiano]

Now NS2EX comes with the same C2D engine, the tweaked 3rd generation, but with ONLY ONE, not both, of the 122 models.

...I hope you don't mind if I ask for clarification because this topic is important to me...Are you saying that the NS2 EX has an updated leslie sim but only one of those?

Is this a conspiracy to drive me insane? Yes, when I say that the NS2EX comes with ONLY ONE (emphasis original) of the 122 models it means that the NS2EX comes with only one of the 122 models.

Edit - the Nord site shows the organ engine as still generation 2 ( C2 )???? I'm confused....

If you include a reference to the specific webpage it might be useful. In any event, if what you say is accurate info, then it's a typo. In the comparison chart it sez Gen 3:

http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart

Pablo

In the chart it says "Organ Modelling generation - Generation 3 (Nord C2 Organ)" to be precise and it says the same for NS2, we are not trying to drive you insane dear Pablo, just highlighting what we see from the mothership.

[williehackitt]

Hi guys i have just bought the 5d can anyone tell me if when using 2 sounds ie piano and sample can you use chorus on both sounds i cant seem to find it in the manual thanks

Willie, your question would be better off in a thread of its own as it has no relevance to this topic. To answer it, you cannot use chorus on both parts at once.

[simonkeys]

Hi Pablo,

I would be grateful if you could be patient with us for just a little bit longer...this question is important to me because the improved Leslie model is the main reason that I am thinking of upgrading to the Electro 5 rather than the Stage 2EX.

We can all agree that the tweaks to the key click are not too important. So the real question is the Leslie model. From the product pages and comparison charts on the Nord website (links a the bottom), I find the following information about the rotary speaker simulations in the various models:

Rotary Speaker Simulation:

Stage 2EX: Generation 2 rotary speaker
Stage 2: Generation 2 rotary speaker
Stage EX: Generation 1 rotary speaker

Electro 5: C2D 122 Rotary Speaker
Electro 4: C2D 122 Rotary speaker
Electro 3: Nord C1 rotary speaker

From this I have to conclude that the last upgrades to the Leslie sim were for the Electro 4 and the Stage 2, and that the Stage 2EX did not have a further upgrade. That would mean that the Electro 5 still has a more advanced sim than the Stage 2EX.

I can't find anything else that contradicts this. On the other hand, if you think that the information on the Nord website is wrong, I would be very interested.


http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-stage-2-ex
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-stage-2
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-electro-5
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-electro-4
http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/n ... ison-chart

Thanks,
Simon

[Spider]

Hi All,

Going back up to Gospelkeys above, in my brain C2 organ and C2D organ are interchangeable terms so long as both have latest OS installed. For reference purposes, the organ models do not reside in the instrument per se in the same manner as pianos and samples -- they reside in the OS.

Max, yes, mothership glossed over the tweaky key click difference in that chart.

Eric, thanks for pointing that out. People throwing in no sequitur questions in the middle of other threads causes confusion to the parent thread and does little/nothing to help the person inserting the question.

Simon: Okay, now I understand where the Gen 2 reference is coming from, but it is clearly a typo on Nord's part. As you can see from the NS2EX manual and as any new NS2EX owner will tell (and is almost certainly correctly represented in other Nord online materials), the NS2EX rotary speaker sim IS NOT the same as NS2. It is not the Gen 2 sim. It is 122, same as NE4, NE5, C2, C2D, except that there's only one, not two (because there's room for only one, not two).

Bless,

Pablo

[maxpiano]

Sorry again Pablo, yesterday I checked the NS2EX manual too (latest available from Nord website downloads section) and the Organ and Rotary speakers sections are identical to the ones on NS2 manual (word by word, they are even on the same manual pages) and no mention of the 122 (as instead you can read on NE5 manual, for example)

PS: the NS2 EX Manual actually looks like the NS2 with changes only to the amount of Piano memory indicated and a "search/replace" to add the "EX" where needed.

[Frantz]

There is a point where only trying can convince

[simonkeys]

ALERT: I have triple-verified my info regarding this with Nord and it is solid. The comparison chart on the website is wrong. The NS2EX contains "regular" 122, the exact same 122 as found in C2D/C2/NE4/NE5. Period.

Pablo