Trouble triggering multiple samples

[snow-white]

I have 4 samples of the same length which are not looped. I trigger them all simultaneously by press on all four keys to which they are assigned to. Whilst the sounds all begin together, for some reason after a while the other 3 stop playing and I can't figure out why.

I've tried turning the Hold key on and off, and also pressing the sustain pedal and not pressing it, and it makes no difference.

Please help!

[snow-white]

Hi
maybe you have to check "ROOT" notes for those samples
maybe the samples are......."reading" the note ' s pitch you're playing....
so....if , in example , the "root" key for all the 4 samples is C3 and you're playing the 4 samples on C3 C#3 D3 D#3 , the only sample that will play with original pitch will be C3 , the others will sound with different pitch.
The "ROOT KEY" of a sample , and the key you're pressing for that sample , has to be the same if you want it to play with the original pitch
( in example - if you put a sample on D3 -set "root" key of that sample "D3" ecc ) .
try also to enable-disable root key , this way maybe all samples are played straight with original pitch , despite where they are mapped on keyboard (don't remember of you have to disable or enable.......
hope it helps
Fab

[snow-white]

Thanks Fab. Each of the sounds are sampled individually on the high part of the Nord. I press all four keys together and for some reason some of the other samples drops out mid performance. I'm also playing keys on the lower part of the nord.

Does anyone else have any suggestions of why that might be?

[snow-white]

Hi Snow.
Which kind of samples are? loops , violins , pianos?
did YOU create those samples with nord sample editor?
give more infos , we can be more helpful

[snow-white]

how long are they in duration? if you are playing other notes on the instrument, "voice-stealing" will eventually occur...

[snow-white]

Hi Pablo & Fabio, they are on my own samples and I've created them using the nord sample editor. Some are looped and some are not. They can be up to 96secs in length. They are assigned individually to single keys which I've allocated to the "high" section of the nord. I play at lower and mid part and trigger sounds from the high part.
When I play I'm holding down the sustain pedal. I try to layer multiple samples sometimes at the same time and other times one after another.

for example, i have a drum loop going and then I'll trigger another sampled "brass" sound and when I press that, the drum loop stops. Even though my foot is still on the sustain. Can't figure out why.

Thanks,

Snow-white

[mjbrands]

for example, i have a drum loop going and then I'll trigger another sampled "brass" sound and when I press that, the drum loop stops. Even though my foot is still on the sustain. Can't figure out why.

I think that's voice stealing at work. For both synth sections (assuming you have an NS2) you have 20 voices in total. Once you reach that and it would need an additional voice (nr 21), it kills the oldest note and uses that one for the new note. In practice is might be a bit more complex than that; the Nord might start stealing notes even before you hit 20 and it might try to do so in such a way that it kills a note which you won't really mis. For example, if you play a 3-note chord, it might kill the middle note because that is less obvious (sonically) than killed the lowest or the highest note.

Since you're keeping sustain pressed, all notes sustain. Maybe you should have a look using a latch pedal or disabling the sustain pedal for specific sections (see page 21 of the manual, SustPed and Latch Ped).

[pablomastodon]

yes, that's surely voice-stealing

I've run into the same thing in my setup: a long duration sample played in the high zone will be stolen before it's entire envelope cycle completes if you're playing lots of notes in lower zones. In some less-than-mission-critical instances I've learned to accept/ignore it.

More recently, however, I've had a need to figure out how to make that not happen and tested it at a gig this past Tuesday and can confirm that it works. In my case, I mixed down kick/snare/hat trax of my drummer from a live gig into a 16-bar 45 second loop and mapped it to the high zone on my NS2-SW73, six notes. Makes for a handy built-in drum machine (my first time doing this). Because the drums are pretty atonal, I was able to play different tempos by using different notes and got it to play for extended periods of time no problem by doing two things: 1) turn Mono Mode on to avoid having two different tempo drum loops playing at the same time, and 2) enabling the Hold button.

If you wish to map more than one sample into your sample zone and also wish to play more than one at a time, then you'll need to stay in Poly Mode , but the Hold feature should still keep your samples going nonstop.

If you don't want nonstop lopping, but want the sample to quit at the end of its 96 seconds, then the latch pedal will be the thing to try. I haven't yet tested that scenario personally though; it may be subject to the same voice-stealing rules.

Pablo

Pablo