Help needed with sample envelope release time!

[reinski]

OK this is probably a simple thing, and I must have figured it out before with sampling on my NS4, but I just sampled a 4 second thing and I CANNOT stop the envelope from decaying when released. I just wanna hit the key and have the sample play out WITHOUT DECAYING when i release the note. Release time is set for a 45 sec and I can't see how to trigger the sample without decaying slightly. Thanks in advance!!

[maxpiano]

Set Release to 0 and Decay to max (=Sustain) then activate KB HOLD on that Synth layer (read about it on NS4 Manual - 6 Synth Section - KB HOLD paragraph)

[anotherscott]

OK this is probably a simple thing, and I must have figured it out before with sampling on my NS4, but I just sampled a 4 second thing and I CANNOT stop the envelope from decaying when released. I just wanna hit the key and have the sample play out WITHOUT DECAYING when i release the note. Release time is set for a 45 sec and I can't see how to trigger the sample without decaying slightly. Thanks in advance!!

Just conceptually... release time equals how long the sound will play after you release it, so you'd want zero, not 45.

Decay refers to how the sound decays while you're holding the note, not after you release it. Though as max said, if you set it to max (you can think of that as "infinite"), it will never decay, it will stay at its full level until you release the key (at which point the Release time parameter takes over).

(KB Hold is if you want the sound to continue playing forever after you release the note, which I don't think is what you want, but I can see how max could have read it that way.)

[maxpiano]

OK this is probably a simple thing, and I must have figured it out before with sampling on my NS4, but I just sampled a 4 second thing and I CANNOT stop the envelope from decaying when released. I just wanna hit the key and have the sample play out WITHOUT DECAYING when i release the note. Release time is set for a 45 sec and I can't see how to trigger the sample without decaying slightly. Thanks in advance!!

Just conceptually... release time equals how long the sound will play after you release it, so you'd want zero, not 45.

Decay refers to how the sound decays while you're holding the note, not after you release it. Though as max said, if you set it to max (you can think of that as "infinite"), it will never decay, it will stay at its full level until you release the key (at which point the Release time parameter takes over).

(KB Hold is if you want the sound to continue playing forever after you release the note, which I don't think is what you want, but I can see how max could have read it that way.)

Right, which is what the OP wrote I just wanna hit the key and have the sample play out WITHOUT DECAYING when i release the note. = KB HOLD

[anotherscott]

(KB Hold is if you want the sound to continue playing forever after you release the note, which I don't think is what you want, but I can see how max could have read it that way.)

Right, which is what the OP wrote I just wanna hit the key and have the sample play out WITHOUT DECAYING when i release the note. = KB HOLD

yeah, you're reading it to mean he wants the note to sustain indefinitely after he releases the key. I read it to mean he wants the note to stop playing as soon as he releases the key. Either of those things can be described as not wanting to hear a decay after you release the key, so it is possible to read that statement either way. But whichever way he meant it, he has the answer.

[FZiegler]

I understood a third, different thing: Hitting the key once to fire the sample a single time in full length, without loop and without decay. Which is what sound effects and drum sounds are often meant to do. But I have no idea how to do that - maybe with a special setting in the sample editor.

[maxpiano]

I understood a third, different thing: Hitting the key once to fire the sample a single time in full length, without loop and without decay. Which is what sound effects and drum sounds are often meant to do. But I have no idea how to do that - maybe with a special setting in the sample editor.

That is actually what you get with KB HOLD and any looped sample, with Amp Decay set to max=Sustain