For once, the manual is surely not enough
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For once, the manual is surely not enough
Hello boys,
I'm currently trying to control my NS4 via midi CC in order to control any parameter from external commands. From the manual appendix, do you know if there are any ressources online with more information. Per example, for the reverb type change, how do i know which value make cathedral reverb ? I've tried manually and you have to divide 127 by 12(6 different reverb 2 variations ) and take a value between 10x and 10(x+1). This is a pain.
[Reverb]
Reverb Enable : NRPN 2:104
Reverb Bright : NRPN 2:106
Reverb Amount : CC#113
Reverb Type/Variation : NRPN 2:105
Reverb Global : CC#30
I'm currently trying to control my NS4 via midi CC in order to control any parameter from external commands. From the manual appendix, do you know if there are any ressources online with more information. Per example, for the reverb type change, how do i know which value make cathedral reverb ? I've tried manually and you have to divide 127 by 12(6 different reverb 2 variations ) and take a value between 10x and 10(x+1). This is a pain.
[Reverb]
Reverb Enable : NRPN 2:104
Reverb Bright : NRPN 2:106
Reverb Amount : CC#113
Reverb Type/Variation : NRPN 2:105
Reverb Global : CC#30
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Indeed, the MIDI feature list for Nord products doesn't comply with what I expect from a MIDI Implementation Chart.
The way to get what you need to know should nevertheless not be very complicated: Just install a MIDI viewer on your computer and connect it to the Nord. Whatever knob you turn or button you press should result in the relevant MIDI commands. Just note them down if you need to know details.
The way to get what you need to know should nevertheless not be very complicated: Just install a MIDI viewer on your computer and connect it to the Nord. Whatever knob you turn or button you press should result in the relevant MIDI commands. Just note them down if you need to know details.
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Hi Tony,
maybe the app MIDI MAPPER can be of some help for you, look here:
https://schroederonline.de/midimapper
I use it on my iPad, works great.
Good luck and cheers from Germany
maybe the app MIDI MAPPER can be of some help for you, look here:
https://schroederonline.de/midimapper
I use it on my iPad, works great.
Good luck and cheers from Germany
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
How to get the Nord stage 4 to send MIDI CC via MIDI output to the computer ?The way to get what you need to know should nevertheless not be very complicated: Just install a MIDI viewer on your computer and connect it to the Nord. Whatever knob you turn or button you press should result in the relevant MIDI commands. Just note them down if you need to know details.
From the MIDI Viewer i can see note being played but i don't see anything when turning a knob. (i've tried both MIDI output USB MIDI and USB DIN).
Edit : i found the solution : activate CC send & receive via the MIDI options in the settings, it works now, i'll make an update
Thanks for the suggestion but i found the solution.maybe the app MIDI MAPPER can be of some help for you, look here:
https://schroederonline.de/midimapper
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Ok so after 6 hours of work with Midi Viewer, a free app for windows/mac, i've managed to list the value effects of almost each CC parameters for Nord stage 4
Enjoy
Edit : see google file below
Edit : see google file below
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Great work!
Any idea how to increase or decrease the actual program +1 or -1?
Thanks
Ingo
Any idea how to increase or decrease the actual program +1 or -1?
Thanks
Ingo
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Probably no way except for the program up/down pedal directly plugged into the keyboard. At least, that's how it is with the Stage 3.
Via MIDI, programms are addressed absolutely not relative to the starting program number. You can only replicate the behaviour you are looking for if you know the starting point and let an external device calculate the program number +1/-1.
Via MIDI, programms are addressed absolutely not relative to the starting program number. You can only replicate the behaviour you are looking for if you know the starting point and let an external device calculate the program number +1/-1.
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Thanks for the work on the MIDI Mapping Tony!
The MSB and LSB commands are used to change banks/programs. I've attached a chart I made that maps out all the NS4 bank/program MIDI program changes.Tony Fuzz wrote: 30 Apr 2025, 12:08
Bank Select MSB CC# 0 (did not understood how to use it)
Bank Select LSB CC# 32 (did not understood how to use it)
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Re: For once, the manual is surely not enough
Hello All,
Since i found multiples mistake please find the google excel file with the last updated version :
Edit : a error was in the file, corrected.
Edit 2 : i've upload a google excel so you have the latest version
Since i found multiples mistake please find the google excel file with the last updated version :
Edit : a error was in the file, corrected.
Edit 2 : i've upload a google excel so you have the latest version
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