How do you tell exactly NS4 has quality piano samples?

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Re: How do you tell exactly NS4 has quality piano samples?

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maxpiano wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 12:11
maximus wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 11:55
cphollis wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 13:46 On your NS4, there's a full parametric equalizer for each section. Set the midrange sweep to 110Hz and the filter to -10dB -- it should sound miles better. I like a little sparkle, so I'd use the "bright" filter setting on APs with that speaker.
Thank you ,are you talking about the the EQ knobs under AMP/SIM EQ panel? I assume those settings affect all sections turned ON? One thing I noticed is the keys sound differently if I hit them soft or hard, assume that's due to the velocity response, is there a best setting to use here?
Many thanks!
AMP/SIM and EQ are per Layer (don't "assume" but read the manual instead ;-) it also explains the velocity curve setting available in Piano section btw )
Thanks, I'm...lol Just could not find the 110Hz, 200Hz is minimum...
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Re: How do you tell exactly NS4 has quality piano samples?

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I think it was a typo, 110Hz are Bass (low freq) not midrange, maybe cphollis meant 1.1KHz, when I use midrange on piano sounds usually I set it around the 880Hz (mid-highs) actually, boosting or cutting depending on the sample and/or speakers I am using and what I want to obtain.
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Re: How do you tell exactly NS4 has quality piano samples?

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maximus wrote: 04 Apr 2025, 00:52 Hello everyone!

I honestly start to question why everyone brags so much about the quality of the Nord stage piano? It seems unless you have $$$$ to spend on good quality speakers, the keyboard is a waste, how everyone is experiencing that high quality samples exactly?? Certainly not through headphones. My old Yamaha P515 sounds very good through its own internal speakers...w/o spending $$$$
I connected 2 Bose S1 pro to my NS4C and the sound is good but not great! Then others say that HS8 and alike are not very good. So how do you guys experience the so called best piano samples? Hopefully not via headphones cause that's not how the music gets its best for sure, far from that..

Thank you.
This has turned out to be an interesting thread.

Your initial complaints appear to result from having incorrect assumptions AND not reading the excellent manual.

Lessons learned:

1) Weighted and unweighted keybeds play and sound differently, that's why there are two types.
2) Great keyboards played through mediocre speakers will always sound mediocre.
3) You won't be able to adjust how your keyboard sounds without understanding EQ.
4) The NS4 has great sound tailoring capabilities -- but it takes a hot minute to learn about them.

If you scan this forum, you'll see dozens of members imploring new members to read the manual. This is why.
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Re: How do you tell exactly NS4 has quality piano samples?

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cphollis wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 14:40
maximus wrote: 04 Apr 2025, 00:52 Hello everyone!

I honestly start to question why everyone brags so much about the quality of the Nord stage piano? It seems unless you have $$$$ to spend on good quality speakers, the keyboard is a waste, how everyone is experiencing that high quality samples exactly?? Certainly not through headphones. My old Yamaha P515 sounds very good through its own internal speakers...w/o spending $$$$
I connected 2 Bose S1 pro to my NS4C and the sound is good but not great! Then others say that HS8 and alike are not very good. So how do you guys experience the so called best piano samples? Hopefully not via headphones cause that's not how the music gets its best for sure, far from that..

Thank you.
This has turned out to be an interesting thread.

Your initial complaints appear to result from having incorrect assumptions AND not reading the excellent manual.

Lessons learned:

1) Weighted and unweighted keybeds play and sound differently, that's why there are two types.
2) Great keyboards played through mediocre speakers will always sound mediocre.
3) You won't be able to adjust how your keyboard sounds without understanding EQ.
4) The NS4 has great sound tailoring capabilities -- but it takes a hot minute to learn about them.

If you scan this forum, you'll see dozens of members imploring new members to read the manual. This is why.
Thanks. Appreciate your help. I do understand eq, thing is reading the manual w/o the keyboard (and speakers) is not good...Now that I have both at my place, I changed the eq, and even the Bose S1 pros (mine) sound much better, with the inherent limitations.

Best!
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