Stage 4: Are songs gone?

[cliff]

Just getting to know my new Stage 4 and I'm looking for Songs. In the Stage 3 a Song was a set of 5 Programs. We still have programs but I suspect that Songs are gone. I liked Songs because they have a name whereas now it looks like there is just a list of pages with 8 programs. Is there any kind of functionality to give each page a name that I can view? I hope I'm just missing something.
Thanks,
Cliff

[FZiegler]

Sorry, there is only a petition for song mode on NS4 left:
nord-stage-forum-f3/stage-4-song-mode-t ... ml#p161413

[cliff]

I'm amazed and disappointed. I'm going to have to give some serious thought as to whether I'll just return the S4 and go back the S3. How am I supposed to quickly call up songs during a gig?

[FZiegler]

There should be some ideas in the thread mentioned. In short: Consider controlling your programs through a tablet software.

[Blueguitar007]

There should be some ideas in the thread mentioned. In short: Consider controlling your programs through a tablet software.

Gee sounds horrible.
Who wants a tablet hanging around falling off etc.
I would stick with S3 and have this function available right there in the board.
Nord was on some crazy mushrooms when they did away with this feature.
I don't see a viable way to gig without it.
Guess you could do the old tried and true paper taped on board. They did this to the Electro too.

[cooltour]

That was the biggest mistake made by the NORD company!
It's like a downgrade!
I use the NS3 with song most almost exclusively on stage, the NS4 is at home and waits for the decisive update!

[cphollis]

On the NS3, you build songs out of programs.
On the NS4, you build programs out of section presets.

If you play basically the same songs in one or more bands, you'll like the NS3 approach.
If you are coming up with new programs all the time (like I am), you'll like the NS4 approach.

No need to be so dramatic, people.

[ericL]

One of the coolest features of the NS4 is the section presets, along with the dedicated effects per individual section. This is BIG step up from the NS3 and one of the things that draws me to the NS4 (which is still on my wish list, but hasn't happened yet).

I have a common scenario on my NS3 where I've crafted "THE piano" or "THE organ" that is saved as part of a program on a panel. I'm then working within another program and realize that I need to get "THE piano" or "THE organ" to add to it...which means I have to go chase around to find where I had saved that particular version (and there may be more than one)...then do a "panel copy" to bring it over to my newer program...only to realize that my newer program needs all the effects from "THE organ" for the synth part or similar...or I have some other important things saved in the panel that doing a copy/paste will make me lose something.

The idea of creating "THE piano" and "THE organ" as a section preset, along with all effects, and then being able to easily pull that up and assign to ANY program without the painful oddness of panel copy/paste...that sounds really cool to me!!!

Where I get hung up a bit on the lack of song mode in the NS4 is probably about 10 songs where I am legit using 5 programs per song and being able to organize a song that holds 5 programs as one container is easier than having to move 5 programs around on a set list. I used the NS2 for so long (without song mode), so I am sure I could get used to it and figure out a few shortcuts. I've written a long thread or two about some of the NS3 song mode drawbacks, so I'm guessing Nord decided to focus their energy elsewhere, rather than trying to cobble the song mode into all the instruments...it only appeared once on the Nord Electro 5 and went away for NE6, same for once and done on NS3 and gone for NS4.

[dremellover420]

Yeah there's no good way to do this sequentially, I think the best way I've found is
A) dedicate 1 bank to duplicating the programs for each song in order (do this on the computer app)
B) write down the # for each setting