Sampling my old Korg SV-1 and wish some Roland Juno samples

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Sampling my old Korg SV-1 and wish some Roland Juno samples

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Hello community!

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This is my first post, even though I've been on the forum for a few months now. I really appreciate the help and the material, be it programs or samples, found on the forum, because as a session musician, they are very useful. Soon I hope to make my contribution with some programs that I designed (approx) or modified from other reference ones, for specific songs that I needed to play live. I hope to do it soon! ha ha

Now what I wanted to ask: Could you tell me tips on how to sample sounds from another piano, as faithfully and practically as possible? Like for example, if I need to sample every note, or just white notes, or every 2 notes, etc. To use them on my Nord Stage 3. I found this video on how to sample with the Nord Sample Editor, which was very helpful:

Since I now have my amazing Nord Stage 3, which does everything I need and more, it's time to sell my Korg SV-1. One of its main defects was that it had very few sounds and was not very malleable. However, some of them like the Rhodes, or some pads, are amazing, so I wouldn't want to lose them so I would like to sample them and save them to use whenever I want on my Stage 3. Any advice would be great, thanks!

PS: I also take this opportunity to ask, if someone has already taken the job of sampling the Roland Juno, since I don't have one but when I tried it, I saw that it had very good sounds.
Thank you in advance and greetings from Argentina :thanks:
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Hello,
I will often record every note for about 10 seconds (longer if needed) with a 1 second silent gap between them and then normalize the full range to create a "master" WAV file. If the source is mono, I make sure my recording is mono - it cuts the sample size in half. After importing the file into Nord Sample Editor 4, I can decide based on the type of sound if I can use less notes for the actual Nord sample I want to create . Given sample memory is precious, I use as few notes as possible (for example C, E, and G#) and loop as soon as practical to keep the sample size down but still have a very workable Nord sample. Sounds with a defined time element, such as vibrato or a filter sweep, need more actual samples because interpolated notes between sampled notes get sped up or slowed down, affecting the rate. As sample memory gets cheaper and subsequent models have more to work with, you can always go back to your "master" WAV to make a sample with more notes, longer time before looping, and so on.

For consistent sampling note-to-note, some folks take the approach of setting up a MIDI file to step through playing every note at a set velocity. If I can find a link to one, I'll post it.

Forum member "My Keys To Music" has quite a few tutorials posted on YouTube including this free video on use of the Nord Sample Editor 4 at
I hope that helps, take care.
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You may have already run into the information that samples from the Sample Editor only contain 1 sound/velocity per note (or range). The rest of the sound shaping is done according to a sound type flag that you set in the editor. Not sure if that's what you are aiming at with your SV-1 Rhodes sound. Some created piano or EP samples anyway.
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FZiegler wrote:You may have already run into the information that samples from the Sample Editor only contain 1 sound/velocity per note (or range). The rest of the sound shaping is done according to a sound type flag that you set in the editor. Not sure if that's what you are aiming at with your SV-1 Rhodes sound. Some created piano or EP samples anyway.
+1,

Forget you will be able to get "as faithfully" (i.e. the same playability and expressiveness) that Rhodes sound that you have on the SV-1 with a monolayer sample. When talking about the Rhodes and pianos in general you cannot avoid multilayer sampling and NS does not support that; with pads instead, being synthesizer sounds, you may have a better luck sampling even with just 1 layer of samples.

I would suggest to invest time on learning how to tweak and improve your Rhodes on the NS3 itself instead (see also Ondre J's EP library and other NS3 product libraries on Nord website as a source of good examples and starting points);
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+2 regarding the Rhodes sample. I haven't had to look beyond the EPs available for the NS3 to get the sound I needed, but they can also be used to supplement your Korg sample if isn't quite hitting the mark for you. Forum member JeffLearman took the approach of mixing his Rhodes sample with the EP8 in his post here if you want to listen to it.

Regarding the Juno, a search for the keyword "Juno" will yield quite a few posts with samples. Any NSMP or NSMP3 samples you find can be loaded to your NS3.
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Wow thank you all for your quick responses and your kindness!

@WannitBBBad you are like an eminence in this community hahaha. I saw several of your posts, they are always useful so I take this opportunity to thank you for that too :) The advice you are giving me is also very good, I will keep it in mind. It sounds logical and practical to me to have that "master wav" to be able to later manage the sample as needed, really, thank you. And I already know Marc from "My keys to music", everything he does is incredibly helpful, so thank you for the recommendation

And I thank you too, @FZiegler and @maxpiano since I had no idea about this matter, however much I could have reasoned it. Clearly the lack of my SV-1 was not going to be supplanted by some samples. I'll probably take the samples anyway, to have them, but I'll be forced to improve my Rhodes on the Nord. The pads or the strings can be more useful.
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