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Everything about Nord keyboards in general; which one to choose, the sound manager, sample editor, and general discussion about the sample and piano libraries.
M1tsos wrote:Im waiting for the next grand piano sample it should be awesome
Me too, I hope they will finally release the "Freud Piano", the only piano sample that automatically adapts to each user's sound perception and expectations about how a digital piano should sound
(just kidding to lighten discussion , more seriously I think we have already quite a broad choice of Grand and Upright pianos, maybe Rhodes and Clavinets would be worth some update, to improve key-release behavior in particular)
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But to be true and more serious the White Grand is the only piano that appeals to me also because of high quality recording and multilayering, so that it sounds very realistic. I think more sample sounds should be made like this but of course the problem is memory. That's why I ask for 3GB for the Electro 7
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maxpiano wrote:... Clavinets would be worth some update, to improve key-release behavior in particular...
YES! I tried to use Mainstage for some time, and the clavinet emulation feels superior to Nord's current samples. They sound perfectly usable, but lack the feel. The reason probably being key release behaviour as you mentioned.
Spider wrote:I think it's just what they see as "cool modern music mostly made with piano sounds", which is where their main market is.
Incidentally, music made by some fairly niche artists that a small company like Nord can afford.
Anyway, they've just release a pretty strong techno soundset for the Wave2 that definitely steps away from the "hipster ambient machine" stereotype...
I think that this is the likely answer. Nord is trying to showcase music with the keyboardist as the lead, which tends to be more jazz styles... or more specifically electronic jazz / funk as Nord tends to feature on their website.
More pop styles of music using the Nord probably feature more simplified arrangements that don't showcase the keyboards as much, and more advanced piano / keyboard soloist styles of music likely have to use acoustic pianos for image sake for their audiences.
maxpiano wrote:... Clavinets would be worth some update, to improve key-release behavior in particular...
YES! I tried to use Mainstage for some time, and the clavinet emulation feels superior to Nord's current samples. They sound perfectly usable, but lack the feel. The reason probably being key release behaviour as you mentioned.
NORD has fallen back in almost any sound category compared to Yamaha, Korg, Roland and Kurzweil imho. The sample sounds don't even have velocity layers...
maxpiano wrote:... Clavinets would be worth some update, to improve key-release behavior in particular...
YES! I tried to use Mainstage for some time, and the clavinet emulation feels superior to Nord's current samples. They sound perfectly usable, but lack the feel. The reason probably being key release behaviour as you mentioned.
NORD has fallen back in almost any sound category compared to Yamaha, Korg, Roland and Kurzweil imho. The sample sounds don't even have velocity layers...
OK, so people who need that type of can instrument/feature can buy Yamaha, Roland, Korg etc... fact many forget is that Nord Synth on Nord Stage section was originally born as a VA and using samples added just as additional static (1 layer) waveforms source for OSC that VA (and on Nord Electro the Sample Synth was originally to play flat samples like mellotron's), it is not born as a ROMpler ina workstation like the other products/brands you have in mind and mentioned. Then, if the thing is "why is Nord not adding a ROMpler section or creating a workstation?", that's a different thing (but also a different or feature or product range that maybe Nord doesn't feel the need to enter in)
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maxpiano wrote:Then, if the thing is "why is Nord not adding a ROMpler section or creating a workstation?", that's a different thing (but also a different or feature or product range that maybe Nord doesn't feel the need to enter in)
And why should they - there is even much more competition and price pressure in that area than in the niche Nord is operating in. They better spend time to improve and extend their current main focus areas - Piano, Virtual Tonewheel Organ, VA Synth. Making their products the 10th or 20th sample based workstation/romper in the market will probably help to gain some marketshare (if any) if being cheap enough but at the price of increased cost and decreased revenues per unit. Howling with the wolf pack gives more noise but you disappear in the crowd ...
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When I was going to get a a Workstation I was reading about them and it was said there is really only one real Workstation on the market and that is the Korg Kronos and now it's replaced by it's little brother the Nautilus. That people will call Montage and Fantom workstation, but Yamaha and Roland even call them synthizers not workstation. Kronos was the only "recording studio in a keyboard" complete Workstation. I'm now a Nord owner because my Kronos learning curve was HUGE and everything I do now on my Nord quickly required take menu diving on my Kronos.
Nord are performance focus keyboards.
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sonicblue wrote:But to be true and more serious the White Grand is the only piano that appeals to me also because of high quality recording and multilayering, so that it sounds very realistic. I think more sample sounds should be made like this but of course the problem is memory. That's why I ask for 3GB for the Electro 7
Sorry to disappoint you but electro 7 will have 1-2gb and it will always be limited because of the price range. 3gb will probably be on the next stage 3ex or 4
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M1tsos wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you but electro 7 will have 1-2gb and it will always be limited because of the price range. 3gb will probably be on the next stage 3ex or 4
I hope they will go crazy for celebrating the 40th anniversary and give it 3GB
Anyhow current 1GB in the Electro 6 force you to delete content in factory preset to upload White Grand XL (needless to say other grands and uprights in XL)!
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it should be awesome
, more seriously I think we have already quite a broad choice of Grand and Upright pianos, maybe Rhodes and Clavinets would be worth some update, to improve key-release behavior in particular)
