Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
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Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
Hi friends, I need your advice and help!
Situation:
NordStage 2, ExternSection Slot A Midi ch. 6 Roland JD-08
ExternSection Slot B Midi ch. 5 Roland XV-3080
I have only Slot B activ and the ExternSection is on (lids on).
I play some keys and the Roland JD-08 (in Slot A) sounds with tones, that are not in the soundpatch. Totaly different sound.
So, why sounds the JD-08, when he is not "connected", because I play in Slot B and not Slot A?
Why is not the Soundpatch sounding, but other tones from the JD-08?
When I turn off the ExternSection nothing sounds (that is ok)
When I play only Slot A, the JD-08 sounds as it should, nothing else.
But when I activate Slot A and B, than I hear both synths (is ok), but in addition the strange sound from the JD-08 (over the Slot B).
How can the Slot A Synth (JD-08) sounds, if no connection is active??!? Strange
I know, the JD-08 has strange Midi-Configuration-Possibilities.
I have a global Channel: set to Channel 4
Midi Channel Part A: set to Channel 6 ( I play part A)
Midi Channel Part B: set to Channel 15
because I don't neet Ch 4 and 15, there are not used
For Information, here are the MSB and LSB orders, if someone is looking for:
Bank A (A11 bis A88): LSB = 0, PC = 0 bis 63
Bank B (B11 bis B88): LSB = 0, PC = 64 bis 127
Bank C (C11 bis C88): LSB = 1, PC = 0 bis 63
Bank D (D11 bis D88): LSB = 1, PC = 64 bis 127
Thank you for your help in advance!
Helmuth
Situation:
NordStage 2, ExternSection Slot A Midi ch. 6 Roland JD-08
ExternSection Slot B Midi ch. 5 Roland XV-3080
I have only Slot B activ and the ExternSection is on (lids on).
I play some keys and the Roland JD-08 (in Slot A) sounds with tones, that are not in the soundpatch. Totaly different sound.
So, why sounds the JD-08, when he is not "connected", because I play in Slot B and not Slot A?
Why is not the Soundpatch sounding, but other tones from the JD-08?
When I turn off the ExternSection nothing sounds (that is ok)
When I play only Slot A, the JD-08 sounds as it should, nothing else.
But when I activate Slot A and B, than I hear both synths (is ok), but in addition the strange sound from the JD-08 (over the Slot B).
How can the Slot A Synth (JD-08) sounds, if no connection is active??!? Strange
I know, the JD-08 has strange Midi-Configuration-Possibilities.
I have a global Channel: set to Channel 4
Midi Channel Part A: set to Channel 6 ( I play part A)
Midi Channel Part B: set to Channel 15
because I don't neet Ch 4 and 15, there are not used
For Information, here are the MSB and LSB orders, if someone is looking for:
Bank A (A11 bis A88): LSB = 0, PC = 0 bis 63
Bank B (B11 bis B88): LSB = 0, PC = 64 bis 127
Bank C (C11 bis C88): LSB = 1, PC = 0 bis 63
Bank D (D11 bis D88): LSB = 1, PC = 64 bis 127
Thank you for your help in advance!
Helmuth
Last edited by Klangwerk on 11 Jul 2022, 08:43, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue
Unless you are using something to explicitly filter out messages on MIDI ch 5, they will reach the JD-08, when playing Extern B. My guess is that there is something assigned to MIDI channel 5, that you simply did not notice.
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue
I have no idea. I've checked the midi-messages and channels. hmm?
Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue
The setup. NS2 midi out --> Roland XV-3080 in, Midi Thru --> Roland D-05 Midi In, Midi Out --> Roland JD-08 Midi In
Channel 5 Channel 11 Channel 6
update: I connected the Roland JD-08 directly with the NS2. The same result with the JD-08! There is a sound, which is not included in the saved patch.
Channel 5 Channel 11 Channel 6
update: I connected the Roland JD-08 directly with the NS2. The same result with the JD-08! There is a sound, which is not included in the saved patch.
Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
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Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue
Have you tried to start from a blank (Init) program and then rebuild the 2 External sections settings? Or to put a computer between the NS2 and the JD-08 and monitor the MIDI traffic (to ensure the NoteOn messages are only on the desired channels)?Klangwerk wrote:The setup. NS2 midi out --> Roland XV-3080 in, Midi Thru --> Roland D-05 Midi In, Midi Out --> Roland JD-08 Midi In
Channel 5 Channel 11 Channel 6
update: I connected the Roland JD-08 directly with the NS2. The same result with the JD-08! There is a sound, which is not included in the saved patch.
PS: I am assuming you have Global Channel set to OFF or USBxx on the NS2.
Last edited by maxpiano on 11 Jul 2022, 11:04, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
Hi Helmuth,
from all that is written I cannot say for sure whether the unwanted sound comes from a nord sound engine or from the JD itself. You may try with setting the JD‘s „local“ to OFF, then its own sounds should not occur anymore.
Cheers
Edit: I guess I‘ve just mixed the instruments - the JD doesn‘t have keys at all, right? Sorry.
from all that is written I cannot say for sure whether the unwanted sound comes from a nord sound engine or from the JD itself. You may try with setting the JD‘s „local“ to OFF, then its own sounds should not occur anymore.
Cheers
Edit: I guess I‘ve just mixed the instruments - the JD doesn‘t have keys at all, right? Sorry.
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
Servus Tasten-Bert,
thank you. I will try it. I didn't think about it, because the JD-08 is a Expander without keys. But I will check it out if there is a local on/off.
Cheers
Helmuth
thank you. I will try it. I didn't think about it, because the JD-08 is a Expander without keys. But I will check it out if there is a local on/off.
Cheers
Helmuth
Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue
maxpiano wrote:Have you tried to start from a blank (Init) program and then rebuild the 2 External sections settings? Or to put a computer between the NS2 and the JD-08 and monitor the MIDI traffic (to ensure the NoteOn messages are only on the desired channels)?Klangwerk wrote:The setup. NS2 midi out --> Roland XV-3080 in, Midi Thru --> Roland D-05 Midi In, Midi Out --> Roland JD-08 Midi In
Channel 5 Channel 11 Channel 6
update: I connected the Roland JD-08 directly with the NS2. The same result with the JD-08! There is a sound, which is not included in the saved patch.
PS: I am assuming you have Global Channel set to OFF or USBxx on the NS2.
Could be a solution.
I will try to start with a empty program and make the connections via Extern Section to find out if the problem still exists.
I have no software to monitor the Midi traffic, Sorry.
THX
helmuth
Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
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Re: Strange MIDI Issue with Roland JD-08 Boutique
update Bert:
there is no possibility to change local on/off.
I've set the Midi-settings (Point 4) to Midi.
there is no possibility to change local on/off.
I've set the Midi-settings (Point 4) to Midi.
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Racks: Roland XV-3080, Fantom XR, D-05 / JD-08
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6
Keys: Nord Lead 3, Nord Stage 2, Nord Stage 3 compact / Yamaha MX49 / Korg Micro XL
Attic: DX-7 II FD / EX-5 R / Korg 05/RW / Roland JD-800 / JD-990 / E-MU Virtuoso, Proteus 2000, XK-6