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RE: Basic MIDI Question

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Hi folks,

Just a quickie here, if I may. I use my Electro 6D with a Roland XV5050 module. I'm considering the different options available for scenarios when I would like to use the Nord in isolation (ie. silencing the XV5050):

I have a (Yamaha) controller-pedal which is truly wonderful in every respect. However, sometimes I play standing-up and so it's impossible to operate it alongside a sustain-pedal (unless you have three legs! :D ). And so, I was looking at a couple of options within the MIDI-menu as an alternative workaround.

One of them was to switch 'local' to 'off' (on the Electro). This enables me to isolate the XV5050 whilst muting the Electro.

And, conversely, (on MIDI page 11) disengage the 'global' setting to 'off' - which enables me to isolate the Electro whilst muting the XV5050.

I think these are both workable options, but I wanted to seek advice here from anyone who may feel I have overlooked something.

Many thanks in advance.

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Paul David Seaman
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Re: RE: Basic MIDI Question

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Rather than setting the local to off to play the XV5050, maybe it is easier to create a patch that is muted (not sure it can be done in the electro, in the NS2 you can switch off all the sections). That way you could call that patch on your NE6 when you want to play the external module.
Another ever simpler option is to lower the volume to 0 in the NE6! (and viceversa with with XV5050).
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Mr_-G- wrote:Rather than setting the local to off to play the XV5050, maybe it is easier to create a patch that is muted (not sure it can be done in the electro, in the NS2 you can switch off all the sections). That way you could call that patch on your NE6 when you want to play the external module.
Another ever simpler option is to lower the volume to 0 in the NE6! (and viceversa with with XV5050).
Many thanks Mr G,

Actually I did kinda' consider the former initially; but at the moment I am not using 'program change' because I tend to just use one-patch-per-song on the XV5050 - and then I simply fade it in/out via the controller-pedal. But I totally get what you are saying, thanks.

Lowering the volume on the XV5050 can be a bit tricky sometimes in a 'duo' setting, because it stands-out when I lose a playing hand.

Rather than lower the master-volume on the Electro (when I don't need it) I tend to just turn-off any active sections (organ/piano/synth). This is extremly quick and instaneous.

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You could also get a volume pedal for the XV... no extra hands required :-)
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Mr_-G- wrote:You could also get a volume pedal for the XV... no extra hands required :-)
Hi Mr_G,

I am using the volume-pedal with the XV5050 (not with the Nord). I have it connected to the Nord, but have all of the 'pedal' trigger options turned-off on the Nord, so that it transmits only the XV5050 (via MIDI).

The XV5050 does not offer a volume-pedal input.

Cheers man!
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I was talking a true volume pedal (rather than an expression one, which I think it is that you are using to control over MIDI?) which connects to the outputs of the XV5050... It works on the audio signal. Perhaps less hassle as you do not need to set any MIDI controls.
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Mr_-G- wrote:I was talking a true volume pedal (rather than an expression one, which I think it is that you are using to control over MIDI?) which connects to the outputs of the XV5050... It works on the audio signal. Perhaps less hassle as you do not need to set any MIDI controls.
Oh I see! I had not thought of using a non-MIDI pedal before. I am using a Yamaha FC7 (yes, it's all done via CC). So you mean a volume-pedal type that a guitarist would use?

But I play in stereo so it would need to have 2 x ins & outs! :?
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You can get a stereo volume pedal to put on the outputs of the Roland... e.g. Boss FV-30L and FV-500L.

Another way to get silence from the Nord itself is to create an organ program with the drawbars at 000 000 000. Or, I assume, a program with the Level at 0 for whatever section is active.

ETA: To silence/activate the Roland, you can also insert a MIDI kill switch between the Nord and the Roland. See https://www.etsy.com/listing/258510836/midi-kill-switch
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I seem to remember the XV 5050 responding to midi for program and performance changes, and it looks like the NE6 can be configured to send them. If there's a XV 5050 program that makes no sound, you might be good. I can't remember if the XV 5050 responded to volume messages.
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anotherscott wrote:ETA: To silence/activate the Roland, you can also insert a MIDI kill switch between the Nord and the Roland. See https://www.etsy.com/listing/258510836/midi-kill-switch
Hey anotherscott,

Many thanks man.

I have been pro since 1986 and I was not even aware of such a device's existence. And I have 100's of geeky keyboard player friends as well.

(ETA? - expected time of arrival? :? )

Paul
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