Volume Control

[stelmerfudd]

Thank you for your patience.

I made a double check Roland >-- Control Pedal. Yamaha >-- Swell Pedal

The Yamaha controls everything on the Nord and the MKS. Its working like a master volume. I may have said that wrong before. If I pull the Yamaha pedal all the way back it cuts the volume on the MKS and everything on the Nord. If I cut back on the Yamaha pedal it will lower the volume on the MKS only.

So, this is the configuration I asked for at the beginning of this thread. That is happening now... yay!

Henrik, I have so many other questions now about those instructions that you gave me to make this happen. I don't know if I should post them or are you sick of this already?

Really appreciate your help. Right now is the most I've ever known about the Nord.

Rick Stelma

[-Toro-]

Ah yes, I was mixing up the swell pedal and the control pedal!

Cool! :)

The Yamaha controls everything on the Nord and the MKS.

aha. ok! that's interesting. then you can use your Roland pedal for other things like MORPH functions (instrument x-overs, controlling filter settings or wah-wah effects etc etc).

Henrik, I have so many other questions now about those instructions that you gave me to make this happen. I don't know if I should post them or are you sick of this already?

Really appreciate your help. Right now is the most I've ever known about the Nord.

taming the beast really is an euphoric hallelujah moment!! :D
Rick, you should definitely post your question on this forum. we're learning from each other. i'm just glad to be able to help!

[stelmerfudd]

Really appreciate your great attitude and patience.

aha. ok! that's interesting. then you can use your Roland pedal for other things like MORPH functions (instrument x-overs, controlling filter settings or wah-wah effects etc etc).

I'm sorry to hear you say "interesting" since something about this configuration is not how you expected. I'm wondering if I should just set everything back to specs maybe by just applying the latest OS again. Not sure really how to even do that. Well, the Roland does control the volume for the MKS which is very helpful... I think... I'll have to do some more performing to see if this configuration is something that is really useful to me. I like the idea of being able to use the Roland to control some other function though. Seems like there is really quite a bit of flexibility.

3. Initialize a PROGRAM (see pg 13 in the manual)
4. EXTERN MENU Extern MIDI A/B Send CtrolPed = Yes
5. activate the EXTERNAL SECTION and select keyboard zones.
6.STORE the PROGRAM

3. I do have the same manual now so that helps. To initialize a program: SHIFT > one of the Program buttons ORGAN, SPLIT ORGAN, PIANO OR SYNTH. All I see after doing that is that it comes up in the display and says its "on". Not sure why I'm doing that or what it does.
4. I can access the EXTERN MENU by hitting SHIFT > EXTERN set MIDI A Send CtrolPed = Yes and then hit the B Panel button and set MIDI B Send CtrolPed = Yes. I didn't see a Save function so I'm guessing whatever you set them to they stay there until you change them.
5. Dude... sorry about this one... What is "activate the EXTERNAL SECTION" and I see there is that knob that says keyboard zones.... not sure what I'm supposed to be doing here either and maybe this is why this result I have is unexpected.
6. I can hit the STORE button twice to save whatever it was that did but it looks like I'm just saving it to one of the selections in the window like 1.1 Grand

Thanks,
Rick
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[-Toro-]

Rick! i am in a hurry, so i will respond quickly. please come back if i'm not making myself clear...

I'm sorry to hear you say "interesting" since something about this configuration is not how you expected.

no, not at all... i'm about to buy myself a second FC-7, so i haven't had the oppurtunity to try my suggested setup yet!
i read in your earlier post that you could not control the external section with your pedal plugged in the SWELL jack. now you're saying you can!! that's why i wrote as i did...

3. ...Not sure why I'm doing that or what it does.
4. ...I didn't see a Save function so I'm guessing whatever you set them to they stay there until you change them.
5. ...What is "activate the EXTERNAL SECTION"
6. I can hit the STORE button twice to save whatever it was that did but it looks like I'm just saving it to one of the selections in the window like 1.1 Grand

3. the main reason to start with an initialized PROGRAM is that you wont inherit any wierd settings from another PROGRAM, which can cause you issues and will be impossible for me (or anyone else) to troubleshoot.
4. correct! your settings are buffered in the memory til you STORE your PROGRAM.
5. sorry for being unclear... "activate"="enable". simply hit the <ON/OFF> button for the external section. one or several green lids (LO, UP, HI) will light up.
6. by pressing <STORE> twice you'll save the PROGRAM to it's current location (in your case "1.1 Grand"). press <SHIFT>+<STORE> to save the active PROGRAM to any other location.

[-Toro-]

hi again Rick.

let me give you a quick guide through the architecture of the Stage...

SAMPLES:
this is the raw material in the PIANO SECTION of the NS. these are the only samples that can be replaced. you can download these samples for free from nordkeyboards.com and load them into the Stage using the Nord Sound Manager.

PANELS:
there are 2 panels available on the NS (panel A and panel B).
a PANEL is a setup of instruments (including external section), morph functions and effects settings.
you can split and/or layer the instrument sections as you wish and route them to different keyboard ZONES. you can setup 3 zones called LO, UP and HI. available layer-/split points are shown as green LEDs along the keyboard bed.

PROGRAMS:
a program stores a setup of 2 panels (which you can play separate or layered) and the settings made in the EXTERN menu (with some exeptions). it also contains the output routings made in the SYSTEM menu. you can store 126 PROGRAMs in your NS. each PROGRAM has a name (you can call it whatever you like).

I'm wondering if I should just set everything back to specs maybe by just applying the latest OS again. Not sure really how to even do that.

don't do that. i think what you're experiencing is not caused by any bug in the OS. it's probably your unfamiliarity with the menus and functions of the Stage. :-)

[stelmerfudd]

Hi,

Thanks for the explanation. That really helps a lot.

Can't thank you enough for your time and assistance.

I haven't had much time lately to really get into it but I'm so much further along with your help.

I see that you have a Motif rack but don't want to muck up this forum with questions about that. I'm not really happy with the piano sounds in the Nord and have been thinking about getting a Motif rack mainly for the piano sounds.

Thanks,
Richard

[-Toro-]

Can't thank you enough for your time and assistance.

hey man, no problem! i'm here for you! :)

I see that you have a Motif rack but don't want to muck up this forum with questions about that. I'm not really happy with the piano sounds in the Nord and have been thinking about getting a Motif rack mainly for the piano sounds.

i have played the keys in several bands since i was 13 years old (i'm 33 now). i have played and owned KORGs (O1W, N364), Rolands (RS-5) and Yamahas (DX11, S90, Motif ES). and i have been active in forums, "motifator.com" in particular.
and i can tell you that nothing causes as much discussions as the accoustic piano sounds!! the Yammy owners dislike their pianos and refer to Rolands "better" pianos. on the Roland forum it's vice versa.

it's all about ones taste. your playing style, your band setup, your song arrangements and not least your eq settings in the PA systems definitely affect how "good" your piano sounds and how well it cuts through the mix.

last week i played a Roland Fantom G at a rehearsal with a band and it took me about 5 minutes to go nuts. the top-of-the-line piano sound was totally drowned in effects and i couldn't get the right feeling. i was longing for my Stage the whole time.

if you're about to get a Motif because of the accoustic pianos i really hope you will play it well before buying it. :-)