Nord Lead A1 in 432hz

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Nord Lead A1 in 432hz

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Hello Nord folks... I write and record in a few tuning using 440hz and 432hz. My synth is Nord Lead A1. How do I change the tuning on it to / from 440hz to 432hz (and others)? Can someone help. And yes,I am new to this synth.

I found instructions online for doing exactly this for Nord Lead 2A, as follows;

"1. Hold down the SHIFT button and press the button labelled Tune. 2. Use the UP/DOWN buttons to the left of the DISPLAY, to change the value. ‘00’ is normal 440Hz tuning. Lower pitches are indicated by a dot to the right of the number and values higher than normal pitch are indicated without a dot. The values are in cents (hundreds of a semitone). 3. Press the SHIFT button again. ** the value range is from -99 to +99"

Nord Lead A1 does not have a Tune button, I need another way to this Master Tune setting. Thank you in advance for any help.
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Re: Nord Lead A1 in 432hz

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You should find a "fine tune" menu. Correct me if I am wrong. Have you read the manual? Its always helpful.

An by the way. Just out of interest, why you would need to play in 432?
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@Eliasm the Fine Tune allows only +/- 50 cents, not enough. A Master Tune setting seems not to exist on A1, according to the manual
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maxpiano wrote:@Eliasm the Fine Tune allows only +/- 50 cents, not enough. A Master Tune setting seems not to exist on A1, according to the manual
Combine it with transpose?
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Elias wrote:
maxpiano wrote:@Eliasm the Fine Tune allows only +/- 50 cents, not enough. A Master Tune setting seems not to exist on A1, according to the manual
Combine it with transpose?
Nope, A4=440 Hz and Ab4=415.3Hz, already "too far"
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Elias wrote:You should find a "fine tune" menu. Correct me if I am wrong. Have you read the manual? Its always helpful.

An by the way. Just out of interest, why you would need to play in 432?
Hi and thank you.

My reasons for 432 are not the usual. i don't dig into the conspiracy topics or the new age-y side of it as much but I have recordings that use it, usually outside clients that ask for help, etc. As a result, over the years I have adopted it on my live guitar rig because I do not want to down tune, but a quarter step down takes some harshness out of the high mid range very nicely and is quite comfortable, while not going a half step down.

yes I have looked the manual and found some bits online (like the instructions I posted) so the question is specific to the NL A1 because there is no Tune button as in those instructions and with the synth being new to me did not want to dive into the meus without being prepared, because the digital menu reading can be intimidating and I am trying to not overwhelm myself with this awesome keyboard.

Thanks again!!
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Elias wrote:
maxpiano wrote:@Eliasm the Fine Tune allows only +/- 50 cents, not enough. A Master Tune setting seems not to exist on A1, according to the manual
Combine it with transpose?
You are saying it is not possible on the A1...at all, not even a work around? That would really surprise me, especially as the the option is on the other Lead models.
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maxpiano wrote:
Elias wrote:
maxpiano wrote:@Eliasm the Fine Tune allows only +/- 50 cents, not enough. A Master Tune setting seems not to exist on A1, according to the manual
Combine it with transpose?
Nope, A4=440 Hz and Ab4=415.3Hz, already "too far"
I thought [A4 -50 cents] = [Ab4 +50 cents], in other words, 100cents = semitone in equal temperament. Am I wrong?
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Re: Nord Lead A1 in 432hz

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100 cents is a semi-tone; 50 cents is a quarter-tone

here is no quantity in integer cents (1, 2, 3, etc., what the synth uses) which produces exactly 432. It is generally thought the the human ear cannot detect differences smaller than 5 or 6 cents, so it seems that an offset of 0.1 or 0.2 will be completely negligible. Here is a web reference to this subject generally:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_%28music%29

Running the formula shown there, I get 31.7667 cents, so I'm thinking that a setting of 32 cents will give you the result you want. I used this Log Base 2 calculator to assist in this:

https://www.miniwebtool.com/log-base-2-calculator/

This is absolutely possible on NLA1

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pablomastodon wrote:100 cents is a semi-tone; 50 cents is a quarter-tone

here is no quantity in integer cents (1, 2, 3, etc., what the synth uses) which produces exactly 432. It is generally thought the the human ear cannot detect differences smaller than 5 or 6 cents, so it seems that an offset of 0.1 or 0.2 will be completely negligible. Here is a web reference to this subject generally:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_%28music%29

Running the formula shown there, I get 31.7667 cents, so I'm thinking that a setting of 32 cents will give you the result you want. I used this Log Base 2 calculator to assist in this:

https://www.miniwebtool.com/log-base-2-calculator/

This is absolutely possible on NLA1

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of course this is very interesting but can the A1 actually do this small a setting to achieve this tuning? if so it would sure help me get through a few tracks I have to finish for someone. Thank you
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