Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Manager

[GuiliClayder]

You’ve got a point.
Re-writing software demands serious investment of money and resources, and I can imagine that for small companies or people who write software on their own, that’s not easy.
But for companies like Nord, Korg etc., with access to aforementioned resources, it should be a matter of course to follow the evolution of computer platforms very closely and to anticipate.
But I guess I’m an idealist and to naive...

[Schorsch]

@GuiliClayder: don't think you're an idealist or naive, but Nord is not a big companies with a lot of people. As far as I know they have less than 40 people for everything, not just software development. I therefore think that they have to carefully plan on which projects/activities they focus their people on, and it could also be part of this planning process that they have to wait with some software changes until theses are really necessary, which for example happens when a current OS no longer supports Nord's latest software releases.

[analogika]

less than 30 every time I've visited...and still is afaik

remarkable how many people have so much spare time wailing over some possible future doomsday scenario which is unlikely to occur

For years Nord has demonstrated that they have some fairly clever people working there
People who are this clever are highly unlikely to willingly discard their entire community of Mac-owning customers

Nord has also established that making advance announcements of future developments is a bad idea

some several years ago I cc'd their master tech support person, Tomas Johansson (my guru, now retired), on a note I had written to a customer on this subject
he liked what I had written so much that he said he was going to begin using it himself

"Nord doesn't publish the menu until the chefs are done cooking"

the chefs aren't done cooking yet

and since this new Mac OS is not released yet, it is most probably a good idea for Nord to be moving slowly and cautiously
to avoid a scenario in which they get their app working perfectly with a beta Mac OS only to have Apple make further changes
to their OS which could potentially render Nord's perfectly code suddenly written unstable

Apple will do what Apple does and then Nord will do what Nord does
this doomsday hand-wringing is a waste of time and energy
and bringing a level of acrimony which does not usually exist in this forum

just say NO to the nattering nabobs of negativism
(Nancy Reagan / Spiro T. Agnew mashup)

agreed that the Count has the thread!

[GuiliClayder]

"Nord doesn't publish the menu until the chefs are done cooking"

the chefs aren't done cooking yet

You have a point, but on the other hand : this 64-bit thingy had better not be a dish that’s served cold...

[CountFosco]

I think it's better that I censor myself again

[be lee vit]

Don't do that!

[Schorsch]

Don't do that!

[Gambold]

>What things?<

Principally special education software and assistive technology devices. Both are notoriously lax in keeping themselves updated, and there have been years where we've had to keep a small fleet of REALLY old Macs alive to run stuff that just didn't have an update yet and thus couldn't run on the newer, more fabulous machines that were coming out of Cuperitino.

Some of the ed-tech companies, notably Boardmaker and Don Johnston (not the actor), have addressed the issue by delivering their products as a fee-based Internet service,, where clients are no longer needed and everything is just java peachy keen - kind of. And even when it did work as well as the client-model, it was always at a considerably heftier licensing fee.

It's gotten better now - I'd say in the last five years things have settled down. But I feel the OP's pain, Apple is notorious for leaving older technologies in the dust. When they bailed on Adobe Flash for iOS, that caused a lot of problems for our teachers and our students, since a lot of the adaptive technologies and special needs software depended on it. I personally am not big fan of Flash and understand Apple's desire to dump them...but it caused us years of hassle and retrofitting older machines.

[stringtapper]

As for simply not upgrading to the new Mac OS, that's not an option for a lot of people. We don't all use our Macs just for leisure…

Ironically, your reason for insisting on upgrading (“not just for leisure”) is exactly the reason myself and every other professional I know who uses their computers for music and audio work DO NOT see upgrading as an automatic response to every new OS release.

[analogika]

LET ALONE running BETA OS versions...