Noice when using USB
-
- Posts: 7
- Joined: 01 Aug 2017, 18:05
- 6
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3
- Has thanked: 2 times
Noice when using USB
When I hook up my Nord Piano 3 with USB to my DAW there is severe noice, kind of high pitch jitter, totally quiet when removing the USB connection. How to solve this!?
Best Micke S/Sweden
Best Micke S/Sweden
-
- Posts: 1721
- Joined: 14 Jul 2017, 11:32
- 6
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 6
- Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3
- Has thanked: 703 times
- Been thanked: 743 times
Re: Noice when using USB
Are there any other connections between the DAW and the NP3? Directly (as in the NP3 outputs to the DAW inputs) or indirectly (via e.g. a mixer that is connected to both DAW and NP3)?
Is the noise also noticeable in headphones (when connecting them directly to the NP3) and/or in the main outputs when run directly into your active speakers/mixer that should not be connected then to your DAW when testing?
It is not impossible that the DAW can be part of the noise generation, especially if you have a ground loop somehow.
Is the noise also noticeable in headphones (when connecting them directly to the NP3) and/or in the main outputs when run directly into your active speakers/mixer that should not be connected then to your DAW when testing?
It is not impossible that the DAW can be part of the noise generation, especially if you have a ground loop somehow.
Last edited by baekgaard on 15 Jun 2018, 08:18, edited 2 times in total.
- dhbp-nord
- Posts: 436
- Joined: 17 May 2015, 02:35
- 9
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
- Has thanked: 43 times
- Been thanked: 133 times
Re: Noice when using USB
Crappy USB cables and poor sound cards (as in onboard) may contribute to this.
DH
DH
-Nord Stage 3 88
-Novation SL MKII 61
-Rise 2
-Alesis Q88
-Roland AX-09
-Focusrite 18i20
-ASUS ROG laptop, 32gb, 6 TB SSDs, Win11, Ableton 11, Reaper
-Omnisphere 2, Keyscape, Trilian
-Arturia, Komplete, IK suites
-Behringer X18
-StagePas 400i
-EV ZLX-15BT
-Novation SL MKII 61
-Rise 2
-Alesis Q88
-Roland AX-09
-Focusrite 18i20
-ASUS ROG laptop, 32gb, 6 TB SSDs, Win11, Ableton 11, Reaper
-Omnisphere 2, Keyscape, Trilian
-Arturia, Komplete, IK suites
-Behringer X18
-StagePas 400i
-EV ZLX-15BT
-
- Posts: 7
- Joined: 01 Aug 2017, 18:05
- 6
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3
- Has thanked: 2 times
Re: Noice when using USB
Hi It is only via the usb cable, which comes with Line6 products I bought a USB hubwith external power to solve this but no.. I have RME audiocard,Raydat..not crappy. I run a proffesional studio and do not have this noice anywhere else..groundloop is a possible thing but I doubt.. so this is not common?
/Micke..
/Micke..
- dhbp-nord
- Posts: 436
- Joined: 17 May 2015, 02:35
- 9
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
- Has thanked: 43 times
- Been thanked: 133 times
Re: Noice when using USB
Also you can use midi instead of USB to get to your DAW.
DH
DH
-Nord Stage 3 88
-Novation SL MKII 61
-Rise 2
-Alesis Q88
-Roland AX-09
-Focusrite 18i20
-ASUS ROG laptop, 32gb, 6 TB SSDs, Win11, Ableton 11, Reaper
-Omnisphere 2, Keyscape, Trilian
-Arturia, Komplete, IK suites
-Behringer X18
-StagePas 400i
-EV ZLX-15BT
-Novation SL MKII 61
-Rise 2
-Alesis Q88
-Roland AX-09
-Focusrite 18i20
-ASUS ROG laptop, 32gb, 6 TB SSDs, Win11, Ableton 11, Reaper
-Omnisphere 2, Keyscape, Trilian
-Arturia, Komplete, IK suites
-Behringer X18
-StagePas 400i
-EV ZLX-15BT
-
- Donator
- Posts: 542
- Joined: 21 Aug 2012, 20:42
- 11
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 3
- Has thanked: 201 times
- Been thanked: 207 times
- Contact:
Re: Noice when using USB
Hi Micke,Soderlund wrote:Hi It is only via the usb cable, which comes with Line6 products I bought a USB hubwith external power to solve this but no.. I have RME audiocard,Raydat..not crappy. I run a proffesional studio and do not have this noice anywhere else..groundloop is a possible thing but I doubt.. so this is not common?
This is a ground loop problem: Nord sends their audio unbalanced, so audio ground is same ground used by USB. When USB and Audio go between the Nord and a computer the ground paths in the cables between the Nord and are shared, so some of the USB signal contaminates the audio path.
Earlier posts on this subject exist in the forum.
- Frantz
- Patch Creator
- Posts: 2261
- Joined: 30 Apr 2011, 13:12
- 13
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5
- Location: ♫♪ earth ♪♫
- Has thanked: 465 times
- Been thanked: 545 times
- Contact:
Re: Noice when using USB
As wired as it may appear, I solved that problem using stereo audio cables between the Nord and the sound card.
http://displaychord.arfntz.fr
A mobile app to display chord names while you play, using midi / bluetooth connection.
A mobile app to display chord names while you play, using midi / bluetooth connection.
-
- Posts: 7
- Joined: 01 Aug 2017, 18:05
- 6
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3
- Has thanked: 2 times
Re: Noice when using USB
I see! Ok, thanks then I know where the problem is. Thanks!pterm wrote:Hi Micke,Soderlund wrote:Hi It is only via the usb cable, which comes with Line6 products I bought a USB hubwith external power to solve this but no.. I have RME audiocard,Raydat..not crappy. I run a proffesional studio and do not have this noice anywhere else..groundloop is a possible thing but I doubt.. so this is not common?
This is a ground loop problem: Nord sends their audio unbalanced, so audio ground is same ground used by USB. When USB and Audio go between the Nord and a computer the ground paths in the cables between the Nord and are shared, so some of the USB signal contaminates the audio path.
Earlier posts on this subject exist in the forum.
Micke.
-
- Posts: 7
- Joined: 01 Aug 2017, 18:05
- 6
- Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3
- Has thanked: 2 times
Re: Noice when using USB
I will try that!Frantz wrote:As wired as it may appear, I solved that problem using stereo audio cables between the Nord and the sound card.
Thanks, Micke.