baekgaard wrote:aureliopenna wrote:Well, returning to the post subject....
Been looking forward to hear your update, so great to see that you share that with us as well.
I'm glad to share, because I'm not against NS3 I just feel that this a different board.
I'm not sure if I follow completely what has happened, but my current understanding is that you have now received a replacement for your original NS3C.
Yes, that's right my dealer send me another one in replacement, new for me but I don't know if this one is older or newer (release) than my old one. So this one could be an old stock board, but seams untouched and it's new to me.
In addition, did you then also get/borrow another (a 3rd) NS3 of some kind (73 or 88 model)?
No at all, I didn't.
Anyway, you wrote:
Pianos on NS3 doesn't have realease or Sympatetic Resonance like on NS2 at all...
Just checking -- but I assume you are using the exact same samples (e.g. 3D Royal XL) in both boards? And that you of course have enabled string res and soft release
Yes on both, sure! They are really different man, believe me, when you put one side by side to another you can see it clear with no doubts. I not guess why it is anymore because was getting a little annoying, but it is.
Did you change/try to change the level of the sympathetic resonance in the sound menu of the NS3 (you probably know, but it is an option you can tweak: Sound Menu/Piano String Res Level)? If the NS2 offers a similar option, maybe you changed that years ago away from the default value, or it could just be that Clavia have tweaked the default setting when creating the NS3 generation of instruments.
Yes, I love noise, lol, just put both pedal and SR on +6db. To me, I can't notice much difference tweaking from -6db to +6db on NS3 at all.
Dynamics ROCKS (just velocity ok, not the sound). Besides the fact that I don't like the lack of release and ressonance (causing a dry sound on NS3, good for staccatos, bad for legatos) either the lack of subtleness on "pp" dynamics and lack of harshness on "fff" dynamics, the NS3 is very correct with it dynamic. Now the board respondes what I'm playing!
I'm not sure if this is how a 3rd unit behaves (also a NS3C? YES) or what, but it seems as if (both?) your replacement unit(s) don't change the sound characteristics in the same way as your NS2C does:
Yes they both don't change comparing to NS2, but if I control NS3 via MIDI playing on NS2 also gives me a little change in dynamic too, but as equal to NS2 sound so it's hard to say once I don't have they both NS3C side by side.
Velocity on my NS2C Rev B is more explicit shown cause the pianos sampler goes from sublte sound to bright and harness sound.
To make my self clear, it is kind off they have a filter ressonance velocity activated which is cool in terms expressiveness.
I have earlier on compared how my (somewhat old) NE3 behaves compared to the more recent NS3. When playing the same piano sound, they both change between the same set of underlying sampled sounds (there is no difference between how many different samples/levels they change between). The NE3 has a somewhat exaggerated amplitude response (the dynamic range between pp and ff is higher) compared to the NS3, that seems more "natural" to me, but as said, both go through the same underlying samples from pp to ff. The NS3 seems to scale them with less artefacts and thus more cleanly within each level.
Interesting, that's how I feel too, when comparing. But even being an artefact, if we can call it this, it sounds very nice me and better, IMO.
If you (or someone else) with a NS2 would be willing to record a simple MIDI file, I could easily check if the scaling and velocity switching between samples is the same or if it's different; just PM me.