Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
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Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
When playing the F#5 on a certain velocity range (somewhere in the upper levels, maybe around 70-100 velocity) on the Nefertiti MKI, the sample has a significant loud "pop" in the lower frequencies integrated in the sample. It's audible very clear with headphones and there's no doubt that this is a mistake. I am playing on the latest version 5.5 with a Nord Stage 2 EX Compact OS 2.26.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
When in doubt, it’s not a “mistake” - it’s an instrument.
It was a sad day when they corrected the slightly detuned C#; let’s not get them to kill the instrument’s idiosyncrasies entirely, hm?
We have Yamaha for boring pastiches of instrument cliches.
It was a sad day when they corrected the slightly detuned C#; let’s not get them to kill the instrument’s idiosyncrasies entirely, hm?
We have Yamaha for boring pastiches of instrument cliches.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
Did you listen to it before you made this comment?analogika wrote:When in doubt, it’s not a “mistake” - it’s an instrument.
It was a sad day when they corrected the slightly detuned C#; let’s not get them to kill the instrument’s idiosyncrasies entirely, hm?
We have Yamaha for boring pastiches of instrument cliches.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
Yes. And the D# just below it is slightly mis-adjusted, as well, being just a tad too loud. And the C# just next to it is slightly distorted.ibljula wrote:Did you listen to it before you made this comment?analogika wrote:When in doubt, it’s not a “mistake” - it’s an instrument.
It was a sad day when they corrected the slightly detuned C#; let’s not get them to kill the instrument’s idiosyncrasies entirely, hm?
We have Yamaha for boring pastiches of instrument cliches.
This is an amp'd actual Rhodes, and a single particular instrument that has a legendary reputation. It sounds the way it sounds. It is Nord's attempt to faithfully reproduce the particular instrument people love with all its quirks and liveliness, not a programmed functional audio cliché a la "Rhodes sound", the way my Motif XS always seems.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
If my money were on it, I'd bet that the F# needs a new hammer tip, btw.
(I'll take a great Rhodes over a perfect one, any day.)
(I'll take a great Rhodes over a perfect one, any day.)
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
This is only about a significant loud low freq pop sound in a certain velocity range on the F#5. Nothing to do with tuning, "perfect" rhodes, "great" rhodes, taste, Motif or anything similar to that. I really don't want a flat Motif rhodes (or a Motif at all for that matter) and I think the Nefertiti sounds amazing (best Nord rhodes so far), but this low freq pop was so clearly audible that I wanted to see if others had noticed the same. I'm not asking Nord to change anything - it was just a nerdy observation.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
I *think* I'm hearing what you're talking about. And I'm pretty sure that it's a busted hammer tip that's giving the note that deep "bok" attack. However, it's only one of many little imperfections that make that Rhodes particular.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
I don't hear it here, but maybe I don't listen for the right thing? There is some hammer noise, but I don't perceive it much differently from the neighboring tones (F and G).
However, I'm on version 5.3 (Large-- the one with the detuned sample), so it may not be entirely the same as you have installed? That's what came installed with the Nord Stage 3 when they shipped originally. The 5.5 version was released a year ago, so I'm not sure why they still ship with the older sample set.
In any case, the C#5 is funky, and the F3 and F#3 are even funkier and somewhat out of tune, depending on how it's played.
Maybe you should try installing the 5.3 version instead, to see if the F#5 weirdness would disappear then?
However, I'm on version 5.3 (Large-- the one with the detuned sample), so it may not be entirely the same as you have installed? That's what came installed with the Nord Stage 3 when they shipped originally. The 5.5 version was released a year ago, so I'm not sure why they still ship with the older sample set.
In any case, the C#5 is funky, and the F3 and F#3 are even funkier and somewhat out of tune, depending on how it's played.
Maybe you should try installing the 5.3 version instead, to see if the F#5 weirdness would disappear then?
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
I don't know. I've never played a perfect Rhodes piano. I rather like the character of the sample.
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Re: Nefertiti MKI F#5 significant low freq pop
Yeah, the EP8/Nefertiti sample is quite character-like. And it's in much much better shape than my old Rhodes was in, in any case