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Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby jon54 » 22 Jan 2013, 11:52

Hi - I'm considering importing an E4SW73 from the US (110v) to Australia (240v). The internal transformer of my E2 has a voltage switch, so I presume this feature has continued in later models. But just wanted to check. Anybody know for sure?
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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby mjbrands » 22 Jan 2013, 12:00

It's the same. Don't forget to replace the fuse :-)
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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby Frantz » 22 Jan 2013, 13:09

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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby Cute James » 22 Jan 2013, 17:18

jon54, may I ask where you are planning to purchase the NE4 from?

I was considering doing something similar myself a month or so ago, and found Juno.co.uk to offer the best prices (no VAT charged).
I still haven't taken the plunge yet, largely because the NE4 is now available domestically...albeit for $300 more - even after you factor in delivery from the UK company.

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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby mjbrands » 22 Jan 2013, 18:45

Customs in the country you live may require you to pay taxes over anything you import above a certain value.

For example, in the Netherlands you have to pay about 4-5% import tax over the keyboard (let's say $3000) and you have to pay 21% VAT (BTW in Dutch) over both the keyboard (including the import tax) and the shipping costs (let's say $100). Additionally, the company who does the customs stuff will also charge you about $15.

Given the amounts above, it would probably cost about $3900 to $3950 to import that keyboard in the Netherlands.

If you factor in additional costs like that, is a locally sourced one still a lot more expensive? Remember that you won't have (hardware) support on the one you bought in the US, unless you send it back to the US for repairs.
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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby Mr_-G- » 22 Jan 2013, 21:38

Completely agree with mjbrands... let's hope not, but you might need to use the guarantee.
What do you do then? Transatlantic service to Pablo? :) It becomes all a bit complicated with going in and out and customs and packing, insurance...
Remember the "no fuse" story not log ago. :( Sure if you buy new, that won't happen, but again... we heard recently of a not-well treated Nord in a plane too.
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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby jon54 » 23 Jan 2013, 02:24

Thanks for the input everyone
* fuse - should the replacement be double the resistance (thinking back to high-school electricity!) V=IR double the voltage, so double the resistance to maintain the same current.
* import and freight costs - yep, I've factored those in. Would work out slightly cheaper than local retail, but remember, there will be no local stock for a further 6 months. My local store received one 4D61 and one 4HP73. and that's it for 6 months. The SW had not even been released but that's the baby that will suit me best (most like my NE2)
* James - eBay seller gigasonic-outlet is the only one I've looked at. I'll probably contact a couple of stores too such as Sweetwater.com

Basically the money is available and my wife has given the thumbs-up! In 6 months, who knows?
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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby Darren » 23 Jan 2013, 15:25

No! If you double the voltage, you need half the current in order to achieve the same output power (Watts).

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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby Cute James » 23 Jan 2013, 16:46

Very good point mjbrands. I haven't factored Japanese import tax into my calculations yet, partly because I haven't quite been in the position to buy.
Now a month or so later, the NE4SW73 is available domestically, so purchasing from a local (albeit in another city) retailer is starting to make much more sense.

Still need to figure out what to do with me NE3 though...

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Re: Does Electro 4 have switchable voltage transformer?

Postby mjbrands » 23 Jan 2013, 19:56

jon54 wrote:* fuse - should the replacement be double the resistance (thinking back to high-school electricity!) V=IR double the voltage, so double the resistance to maintain the same current.

The Nord website doesn't list a number of the E4 SW73, but I think it will use about 25 watts (or less) of power.

I think the stock fuse of for the US will be 250 mA, but it might also be 300. Anyway, 250 mA at 115 volt will give you a maximum of about 29 watt and a 300 mA fuse will give you about 35 watt. If you convert it to 230 volt (or 240 for Australia), a 125 mA fuse would give you 30 watts and a 150 mA one 36 watts. I'd start with a 125 mA one, but you could also go for the 150 mA one.

Either case, you'll need a 'slow blow' fuse - when you turn the keyboard on it will use more than the maximum rating of the fuse for a very short time (capacitors charging, etc). Slow blow fuses are designed to allow for that; fast acting ones may blow (won't damage your Nord, but you'll have to replace it). The fuse us meant to protect both you and your Nord; if it suddenly starts to want to use 50 watts (just an arbitrary number), something is wrong and a blowing fuse can prevent further damage.
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