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Re: Advices for a jazz/blues newbie?

Postby Gustavo » 28 Dec 2012, 00:11

Thanks for the advice, I can´t believe its been a little over a year since I actually started my musical journey. I feel like I have advanced quite a lot, specially rhythmically.

A thing I found a while ago is a book of John Coltrane licks. Those are superb to start doing solos since you can get a lot of ideas from his various licks, and they also make good exercises.

I know what you say about not listening to piano players, specially because it can be too intimidating!! listening to guys like Bill Evans or Dave Brubeck to Chick Corea and Hiromi is totally intimidating, it makes me believe I can't even play the piano. Then there are times where with my fellow bandmates we play very simple songs, like All Blues and people praise us for our playing. Sometimes playing simple stuff (like a trumpet or a sax would do) can be quite rewarding.

Saludos,
Gustavo

PS: I've already learned All Blues, So What, Blue in Green and also made *some* attempts at recreating some of the solos.
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Re: Advices for a jazz/blues newbie?

Postby Gustavo » 28 Dec 2012, 00:14

Cee wrote:+1 for Jamie Aebersold. It'll get you going with improvising over simple blues form and then you can take it from there! :D


I didn't remember this one piece of advice but coincidentally I just got the first two "volumes" a week ago!!
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Re: Advices for a jazz/blues newbie?

Postby Frantz » 29 Dec 2012, 13:50

+1 with Paul, great advices IMHO
Paul is just right about how rewarding a drumming experience can be.
In september I began to play the drumset in a band with my local music school.
Starting from scratch, for me it's about two times 10 minutes 4 days a week on technical rudiments, 15 minutes 3 days a week practicing/learning the tunes, and ~1 hour per week with the band.
I listen to tunes from the drummer's perspective, found that "air" drumming with only my hands/knees and feet/floor helped me a lot for coordination.
The learning curve goes fast at the beginning and it's very rewarding and addictive (always want to spend more time, more often).
Have a good teacher (or drummer friend), a good teaching method ... you might want to play both instruments in two different bands !
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Re: Advices for a jazz/blues newbie?

Postby JoeCool » 30 Dec 2012, 12:30

one of the good things to practice in swing style, regardless of what instrument you play, is the following:
Use a metronome, set it to the half speed (so if the tune is 160, set it to 80) Now let it start, but see the clicks as the 2 and 4 of the bar. (1 - click - 3 - click...)
play your entire song incl. soloing on this. You will perhaps not get this in the beginning, but it is a real good exercise for your timing to keep this going and not shift into the click coming on 1 and 3.
I learned this from my first trombone jazz teacher many years agon and still use it.
And stay with simple songs! Don't bother with overcomplicated song and chord structures, get simple things working first.
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Re: Advices for a jazz/blues newbie?

Postby Gustavo » 09 Jan 2013, 03:53

Just today I had some time to view the Jamey Aebersold Volumes I I got, my god I cannot believe the quantity of Volumes that guy has written!! Just impressive. But will take the Volume I recommendation and take it slowly at my own pace.

@Joe thanks for that tip, its really usefull, have been doing that for some time, but I still every now and then get confused and do it (click - 2 - click - 4) but with practice I gotta take that eventually.

Right now I am trying to improve my technique play real legato slowly (which has proven to be hard for me) and play some scales to practice posture, fingering and such.
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