Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pedals

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Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pedals

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Like the titel says...
I have the nordstage 4.. and its a nice keyboard..
I think its common that the presets doesent store the value's of de modwheel or external pedal's.. for nord..
What i find kind of anoying.. and strange because every setting is store'd.. but not that.
Like in mainstage.. you can set the value when selecting the preset.
Or do i miss something?? or is there a work around??

hope someone recognize this?? and how is dealing with it..

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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

Post by FZiegler »

There is no work around and no offset on Nord instruments: The value of a MW or CP is always the actual setting.

You can send both values via MIDI, but I don't think it will be kept: It's just an intermittent value that will be immediately overwritten by the next value read from the controller - and will result in jumping values.

What do you want to achieve?

BTW questions starting with WHY are to be directed towards Nord, not the user forum. We tend to answer questions starting with HOW or WHAT. ;)
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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

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I'm used of the storage of the pedal's too (mainstage).
So... that if you choose a preset.. it sounds the way it should be.. (and you can control it.. (if you want))
Now.. i constantly have to look at the modweel and pedal if you start a new song.
Thats why..
But.. like you say.. i can't think of a way to solve this.
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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

Post by jonilikeskeys »

If I need the wheel to be down at the beginning of a song, I actually draw it in my sheet music :thumbup:
Otherwise I try to do as much as possible with the control pedal, because that one isn't as easy to forget!
And the wheel is only 2nd choice...
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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

Post by ericL »

This is something that requires practice and a bit of double checking on the gig. I have gotten myself in the habit of zeroing out the mod wheel and control pedal at the start of each new song to avoid surprises.
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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

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But then again.. what would be problem to save the settings… (like all the rest of the buttons/dials)..
Like mainstage does…
In my eyes… it doesn't make any sense to save everything but not the modwheel and pedal..
But im afraid thats my own issue..
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Re: Why do presets not store settings of modwheel and exp pe

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Macnl wrote:But then again.. what would be problem to save the settings… (like all the rest of the buttons/dials)..
Like mainstage does…
In my eyes… it doesn't make any sense to save everything but not the modwheel and pedal..
But im afraid thats my own issue..
The MOD Wheel and Pedal are NOT settings they are active modifier controls. MainStage does NOT have an actual MOD wheel or a Pedal by virtue of being software so those virtual Wheel/Pedal modifiers can have a saved state, but generally speaking real keyboards (as opposed to software) don't save those parameters as they are always active-state controls (Just like the keys on the keyboard which also don't get saved)
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