Realistic Upgrades for a future Nord Electro 7

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Realistic Upgrades for a future Nord Electro 7

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Realistic upgrades for a future Nord Electro 7

**Organ Section**
-Volume led faders like Stage 4. Drawbars with led like Stage 4. (Not necessary, just a visual update)
-**Hammond:** Add an option in menu for the 1' drawbar percussion cancel. Isolated Rotary like Stage 4. Separated percussion volume and decay buttons like Stage 4.
(Not needed but would be good to have: More hammond and Leslie models.)
-**Vox Continental:** Separate Flute and Reed drawbars like it was on Electro 4 and like it is on Vox Continental 301 models. Add an option in menu to chose between drawbar IV like 62-64 or 65+ models. Or just transpose the IV drawbar one octave down, that way we get a better Vox sound (like 65+ models).
-**Farfisa:** Could be added a multitone booster option (that can be controlled by the expression pedal).
-**Pipe**: Pipe organ with real stops and not just frequency (Or just remove it if that means an increase in other areas).

**Piano Section**
-Volume led faders like Stage 4. (Not necessary, just a visual update)
-**Pianos:** Add pedal noise option. (Not necessary)
-**Rhodes, Wurltizer and Clavinet:** Sound update.

**Sample Section**
-Volume led faders like Stage 4. (Not necessary, just a visual update)
-Cut off knob.

**Effect Section**
-Layer effect like NS4

**System:**
-Swell input and not control pedal input for both
-It should be possible to split the upper manual and use another sound as a lower keyboard (say, sample and piano on the upper keyboard, one on one half and the other on the other half, and organ on the -lower keyboard
-Increase the sample section to two sounds. Where you can assign a piano or organ sound to the sample slot, that way we can play two organ sounds and two piano sounds.
-All drawbars in 0 position when you turn the organ engine on any empty program.
-Output routings like S4.
-Returning of midi CC drawbars, like Electro 4, for lower manual (that way we can add midi drawbars to control lower manual).
-Better split points

**Notes:** That would be like a "fusion" between E and C lines. That way we will have a more versatile keyboard that can look like a dual manual combo organ or like a single manual keyboard. We should have a big upgrade in the organ, piano and effects section, otherwise it wouldn't justify buying a new keyboard.
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Re: Realistic Upgrades for a future Nord Electro 7

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There was no such "big upgrade" on the sound engines between NE5 and NE6 (even some "degrade" actually, like MIDI Upper Split mode) but NE6 sold nevertheless + if any NE7 is actually coming soon, it has already been designed and engineered so... I'd take it easy and just wait and see.

PS: you already had the same thread here nord-electro-forum-f9/only-buy-e7-if-th ... 71-10.html and you deleted before opening this new/same one: why not continuing the discussion there? :-)
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I think it is more realistic to expect a better keybed (On the 7 HP) and the features introduced on Nord Piano 5 - Two independent layers, unison, mono and legato mode etc...
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NoDirection wrote:I think it is more realistic to expect a better keybed (On the 7 HP) and the features introduced on Nord Piano 5 - Two independent layers, unison, mono and legato mode etc...
I would agree, although I’m not so sure about the two independent layers. I would think Clavia would want to keep that as value separator for the Stage and Piano lines.
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Split points should be anywhere on the keyboard. Never understood why they aren't.

Be able to play different samples on splits. Electro only allows one - you have to use piano or organ on the other. Don't understand that, either.

I find both those restrictions to be counter-intuitive and detrimental for performance needs, which is what the Electro is supposed to be all about. I don't see how they would require a significant overhaul to correct.
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Also, a sullen prediction - if the Stage 4 is any indicator, the Electro 7 when it finally appears is going to be super expensive. Currently a Stage 4 88 costs over $6000 USD after taxes. That is very high, even by Nord's traditional standards of being at the top of the pricing tier.

My guess is the Electro "7D" 73 will top $4000 when taxes are paid and the HP 73 will go over $4500. Hard to see Clavia releasing a new Electro for "just" $500 more than the old one.

Compare to the Yamaha YC 73 currently selling for $2800 after taxes, and hard questions will need to be asked. So yeah, fix the damn split restrictions.
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Gambold wrote:Split points should be anywhere on the keyboard. Never understood why they aren't.
My self-answer: because Nord was the first (or one of) to add leds to visually indicate where the active split is (a valuable innovation, imho) and, to avoid putting as many leds as the number of keys, they had to make a choice.

Technically speaking, today it should be more feasible also for Nord to remove that limit, led strips are less expensive and could be an option (like you can see on the NI Kontrol Sxx master keyboards "Light Guide"), but so far they didn't go for that yet...
Gambold wrote:Be able to play different samples on splits. Electro only allows one - you have to use piano or organ on the other. Don't understand that, either.

Samples are played by the Sample Synth and on Electro you have 1 Section per type, that is the reason of the "limitation"; what you ask then is to have 2 Sample Synths on the NE, which would be quite a change in the NE sound generation capabilities as they used to be so far (technically possible of course, but probably getting the Electro "too close" to a Stage, in Nord marketing view, I presume)
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The LED indicators for splits are nice but not necessary. We usually know where our splits are and if we wander over to the wrong place, well we know that pretty fast. Also it seems at this point a pretty weak reason to not offer splits at any key.

And the actual split point decisions were made - by marketing survey? Office poll? ChatGPT? Nord offers no rationale for them in their literature. Splits are such a personal thing and dependent upon what you need for a particular song. Basically Nord is saying that unlike every other keyboard out there they still don't have splits, except sort of.

>what you ask then is to have 2 Sample Synths on the NE, which would be quite a change in the NE sound generation capabilities<

Ok, but we can split the organ into two different registrations, and we only have one organ section. Now this may be a special case, and I have never tried having a Vox on one side and a Farfisa on the other, which may not be possible...
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[quote="Gambold"]Also, a sullen prediction - if the Stage 4 is any indicator, the Electro 7 when it finally appears is going to be super expensive. Currently a Stage 4 88 costs over $6000 USD after taxes. That is very high, even by Nord's traditional standards of being at the top of the pricing tier.

Nord didn't increase the price of the Stage for 18 years. even with the price increase, it's still cheaper, adjusted for inflation, than the original and does a lot more. the price of the Electro stayed the same for years as well, even with new model introductions.
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Dude, it's over $6000 USD. So I guess they sell to record companies and universities now.
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