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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby maxpiano » 19 Jan 2023, 16:34

Gambold wrote:>Don’t get me wrong. I find it to be completely ridiculous and unacceptable.<

Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'm trying to think of reasons why this is the way it is. The two different Restore archives seems an outright blunder. But maybe they are holding back the sample updates from the site o they can release them with lots of fanfare when they release a new board later this spring, or at NAMM?


Could be. Or maybe they are making changes targeted at NP5 new features only (or mainly) and they want to consolidate them before distributing on the official Library, maybe also to have time for some OS updates for other models to fully support them (?)
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby Gambold » 19 Jan 2023, 17:13

The wurli samples are the problem. Those are just like the enhanced Rhodes samples that were released a few years ago…I can’t think of any reason to hold those back. The current two public wurli files are 10 and 12 years old and frankly are pretty weak.
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby maxpiano » 19 Jan 2023, 18:01

Gambold wrote:The wurli samples are the problem. Those are just like the enhanced Rhodes samples that were released a few years ago…I can’t think of any reason to hold those back. The current two public wurli files are 10 and 12 years old and frankly are pretty weak.


Yes and the weird thing is that if I am a NP5 owner and I just want to load/reload one of those samples, if I didn't notice the version of the NP5 factory ones I am going to download the older version... :thumbdown:

Good that this NUF thread exists then, while Nord will "recover" and update the Piano library on their website hopefully soon
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby M1tsos » 19 Jan 2023, 19:25

Gambold wrote:I tried calling - got a voicemail. I just sent an email and got a robo-response saying they will respond soon. Stay tuned.



Call at 11 o clock in the morning swedish(europe) time.. i speak with them everytime around this time.

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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby Bjosko » 20 Jan 2023, 00:37

Gambold wrote:The wurli samples are the problem. Those are just like the enhanced Rhodes samples that were released a few years ago…I can’t think of any reason to hold those back. The current two public wurli files are 10 and 12 years old and frankly are pretty weak.

Funny, I have a Legend 70’s and a Numa X Piano, but am returning each time on the Nord just for the Wurlitzer piano.
Now, if Nord would release a new Stage with the same 73 or 76 TP110 keybed as in the Numa, my credit card would be ready :thumbup:
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby agcohn » 20 Jan 2023, 07:12

Spider wrote:For who's wondering how big the company is, Nord is about 35-40 people.

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, Nord is a very small company. They're not like a Yamaha or Roland who might have a team of 35-40 people just working specifically in software design or R&D or marketing, etc.
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby Gambold » 23 Jan 2023, 17:04

>all at 11 o clock in the morning swedish(europe) time<

That's 4am for me. Pass. Especially because I doubt I'll get any answer on anything - I'm sure others have tried. Oh by the way - I did send them an email to the address in their voice response - I never heard back from anyone, either at Clavia or a distributor.
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby Rusty Mike » 23 Jan 2023, 17:26

Bjosko wrote:Funny, I have a Legend 70’s and a Numa X Piano, but am returning each time on the Nord just for the Wurlitzer piano.
Now, if Nord would release a new Stage with the same 73 or 76 TP110 keybed as in the Numa, my credit card would be ready :thumbup:


Same here, although I would prefer an Electro over the Stage. Speculation seems a new Stage will drop before an Electro due to the recent price and availability fluctuations of the Stage 3.

The Numa X Piano 73 has caught my eye recently. It seems the OS update and new piano samples have put some appeal in the product. It's also less than half the price of a new Electro. I'm pretty tempted at the moment.
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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby cookie » 24 Jan 2023, 17:15

The same applies for Nord Stage 2 sounds.
I didn't dig into the vanilla Stage2 backup (RevA), but went directly to the 2EX backups.
There are 2 backups, a standard (RevC) and one with the "Chinese Orchestra".
(perfect time to wish everyone a happy "rabbit" new year 2023 !)

The "Chinese" backup has sounds found in the "Chinese Orchestra" sound collection.
Only the Dizy v2.1 is in the backup, where only v2.0 is found on the online collection.

Then, there are v2.0 of string sounds in the Standard backup that are not on the online Sample Library : 22violins Leg_LoVib_ SR ste, 23 Violins NoVib__SR ste and SoftStrings Leg_LoVib_SR ste.
Funny enough for 22violins Leg_LoVib_SR ste, we have 3 versions : 2.0 in standard backup, 2.1 in Chinese backup and 2.2 online !

Uploading here the hidden files for reference (or users interested in saving few hunderd kilobytes).
Dizi_ChiOrch_PP 2.1.nsmp
Dizi version 2.1 not found in Sample Library (2.0)
(4.45 MiB) Downloaded 40 times

22violins Leg_LoVib_ SR ste 2.0.nsmp
22 Violins Legato LowVibrato version 2.0 not found in Sample Library (2.1)
(3.41 MiB) Downloaded 41 times

23 Violins NoVib__SR ste 2.0.nsmp
23 Violins NoVibrato version 2.0 not found in Sample Library (2.2)
(2.26 MiB) Downloaded 40 times

23 Violins NoVib__SR ste 2.1.nsmp
23 Violins NoVivbrato version 2.1 not found in Sample Library (2.2)
(2.11 MiB) Downloaded 41 times

SoftStrings Leg_LoVib_SR ste 2.0.nsmp
SoftStrings Legato LowVibrato version 2.0 not found in Sample Library (2.1)
(5.65 MiB) Downloaded 45 times


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PS: @Florence, still giving you extra work to grab the new IDs :(

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Re: Piano library - new versions in instrument, not on websi

Postby cookie » 24 Jan 2023, 17:54

The backup v1.6 revA of the vanilla Stage 2, also has some specific sample versions (mainly named V4) : I let you check by yourself.

I'm updating here the V4 of the "22Violins" nsmp for reference. Seems the "22Violins" nsmp3 is named V3, wondering if it was converted from V2 found on the website...
22violins__ste SRv4.nsmp
22Violins found in the Stage 2 v1.6 revA backup
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Filesize differences for this "22Violins" nsmp example puzzle me :
2.0 = 3,492 kb
2.1 = 3,361 kb
v4 = 2,991 kb
v3.0 (nsmp3 only) = 3,759 kb

Happy savings !

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