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Re: Organ volume balance

Postby ggoebel » 19 Nov 2022, 10:18

Hlaalu wrote:Edited my previous post. :thumbup:

Thanks, did same with my post.
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Re: Organ volume balance

Postby Gambold » 22 Nov 2022, 15:21

>Have you tried the equalizer? <

I almost never use the equalizer for anything. I think equalizing Nord's samples causes more problems than it solves. The only times I've used it is to correct glaring problems in some samples - like the murk of the Nefertiti, the boxiness of the Velvet, or the fact that the treble register on the Imperial was apparently sampled with a five-year old gingerly pressing the keyboard. Other than that I let the samples speak for themselves, warts and all. Isn't that their "character?"

As for the organ, since B3s don't have equalizers, neither should I be using one on Nord's B3 engine. In general I find their organs to be pretty good, although that they eliminated the 9th drawbar/percussion setting on the E6, for no other reason than to be perverse and annoying, really sucks. I mean it's not even a setting option. Large WTF, Clavia.

I think this volume issue is likely the rotary settings or something like that.
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Re: Organ volume balance

Postby analogika » 22 Nov 2022, 16:55

Gambold wrote:As for the organ, since B3s don't have equalizers, neither should I be using one on Nord's B3 engine.


I get what you're saying, but disagree. Mostly because the Nord is not the equivalent of a Hammond playing through a Leslie in a room, but a Hammond playing through a Leslie in a room recorded with microphones.

As such, the sound is tremendously impacted by the choice of microphones, their placement, their volume balance, and yes, the EQ used by the engineer.

I tweak the organ to try and match my own B3's sound, which I run through a 760, which has separate adjustments for input gain and horn and rotor output volume. It is tweaked to give a nice sizzle and crunch in conjunction with the Leslie preamp, with a respectable bark on percussion.

So even discounting the fact that the sound of the Hammond as heard through a PA or on a recording is heavily affected by choices made by the engineer, the instruments themselves can sound wildly different from one another.

The EQ and distortion are a means to tweak the sound according to musical preference or the preferred sound of the instrument. Not every B3 is a jazz organ.

Gambold wrote:In general I find their organs to be pretty good, although that they eliminated the 9th drawbar/percussion setting on the E6, for no other reason than to be perverse and annoying, really sucks. I mean it's not even a setting option. Large WTF, Clavia.


I understand this, having myself requested the feature back when I got my Electro 2 fifteen years ago ("We'll consider it for a future product release.").

However, in practise, given the availability of presets, I find it far less essential, while the actual functionality that I *really* wanted was never implemented — which is that engaging the percussion switch not only kills the top drawbar, but also triggers the percussion on all keys currently held down.

That's the far bigger omission, IMO.

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