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Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby Nutritivo » 21 Sep 2021, 23:29

Hi!

After my romance with my Nord Lead 2X (I'm freaking in love that machine <3), today I got a beautiful Nord Wave in pristine condition at a great price... or that is what I thought.

Most of the buttons, maybe half of the total, are behaving strange. Wen, i.e.,I try to change preset with the page buttons, I push the page up button, and the thing just ignore my command, change the preset as I expected, or just skip one or more presets. One of the weirdest behaviours, it's the mod envelope routing button, that sometimes, instead of cycle clockwise, make an step backwards :wtf:

The OS is the 2.14. Can be a bug? As I said, the machine it's in mint condition. The knobs feel tight, and button feel are just right, nothing loose or any strange noise. Not any sign of abuse, not even a minimal scratch.

Any idea? I'm really liking this machine as his older brother, but this is driving me nuts. :crazy:

Thank you all!
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby Nutritivo » 04 Oct 2021, 10:58

I blowed compressed air between the buttons, and now it's working a bit better. I'll try with some electronic contact cleaner, but maybe it's better to open the whole thing. I'll keep you posted, to see if I can help someone else from the future, having the same problems.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby FZiegler » 04 Oct 2021, 12:04

If ever you want to use a contact cleaner for the buttons (maybe this is OK), I learned never to do this with the keys' contacts. You wash the graphite away that serves as contact.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby Hlaalu » 04 Oct 2021, 12:05

Nutritivo wrote:One of the weirdest behaviours, it's the mod envelope routing button, that sometimes, instead of cycle clockwise, make an step backwards :wtf:


That can indeed happen with dirty/damaged encoders. So no it's very likely not a bug... although I'm not sure if that had been better or not! :roll: If you can open it and clean it easily, then no big issue... Otherwise, at Syntaur they sell several spare parts.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby Nutritivo » 05 Oct 2021, 01:00

Wow, thanks! Good to know.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby Nutritivo » 05 Oct 2021, 22:21

Hi there,

Finally used WD 40 Contact Cleaner and now all the buttons are working like a charm! No even needed to open the Nord, I just sprayed a bit around every button gap and voilà! :keyboard:

Also, I got rid of some pesky noise in my interface's headphone output.

If you are experiencing some similar problems, I can't recommend this product enough.

Cheers!
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby varignet » 16 Oct 2021, 22:20

Nutritivo wrote:Hi there,

Finally used WD 40 Contact Cleaner and now all the buttons are working like a charm! No even needed to open the Nord, I just sprayed a bit around every button gap and voilà! :keyboard:

Also, I got rid of some pesky noise in my interface's headphone output.

If you are experiencing some similar problems, I can't recommend this product enough.

Cheers!


I have a couple of buttons on my nord lead a1, incidentally the ones I virtually never press (for toggling fx type and for toggling filter type) that occasionally are detected as double presses. After having pressed them a lot today, they are now working fine.
But i'm worried this double press might come back.

Would wd40 contact cleaner you refer to be better than isopropyl alcohol? I have a can of the latter.

Also, I could try your method with the wd40 contact cleaner , i'm just dubious how does it manage to travel through the gap and the cap well into the button and into the contacts? I would imagine you would need to open the keyboard.

Alternatively I could open the keyboard and take the caps off and metal spring off the buttons and blow air and spray isopropyl alcohol on the contacts and spring?

Any recommendation? thx!
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby FZiegler » 16 Oct 2021, 22:37

Here's someone who worked as a pro technician for Nord instruments in the US: Pablo Mastodon. On deoxit spray being not the best bet - at least for spraying into the instrument without good targeting. post74823.html#p74823
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby varignet » 16 Oct 2021, 22:44

FZiegler wrote:Here's someone who worked as a pro technician for Nord instruments in the US: Pablo Mastodon. On deoxit spray being not the best bet. post74823.html#p74823


Thanks, I read that post, but Pablo I think is referring to keyboard contacts, i'm referring to simple on/off buttons, where a piece of bent metal under a plastic cap acts as a springy on and off circuit.

I never heard of deoxit, what is the difference between isopropyl alcohol, wd40 contact cleaner and deoxit?
I believe the first two hopefully won't leave residue?
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour

Postby FZiegler » 16 Oct 2021, 23:56

I won't give any advice concerning your isopropyl alcohol - I'm not experienced in that matter.

The mixture of WD40 isn't the same everywhere in the world. But as it's also used as lubricant, it will certainly have residues: some oil that might attract dust.

De-Oxit seems to be the name of a product - an electrical contact cleaner. It's supposed to work against the thin oxide layer on the contacts rarely used. I don't have any idea about the other points on that product you have to be careful with. If ever you'd use that contact cleaner spray, don't spray it around - that's what I think what Pablo wanted to state.

In my eyes it was a good idea to first try to just press those buttons a couple of times until they worked again. No worry at all about that.
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