Nord Wave funny button behaviour
Nord Wave funny button behaviour
Hi!
After my romance with my Nord Lead 2X (I'm freaking in love that machine <3), today I got a beautiful Nord Wave in pristine condition at a great price... or that is what I thought.
Most of the buttons, maybe half of the total, are behaving strange. Wen, i.e.,I try to change preset with the page buttons, I push the page up button, and the thing just ignore my command, change the preset as I expected, or just skip one or more presets. One of the weirdest behaviours, it's the mod envelope routing button, that sometimes, instead of cycle clockwise, make an step backwards
The OS is the 2.14. Can be a bug? As I said, the machine it's in mint condition. The knobs feel tight, and button feel are just right, nothing loose or any strange noise. Not any sign of abuse, not even a minimal scratch.
Any idea? I'm really liking this machine as his older brother, but this is driving me nuts.
Thank you all!
After my romance with my Nord Lead 2X (I'm freaking in love that machine <3), today I got a beautiful Nord Wave in pristine condition at a great price... or that is what I thought.
Most of the buttons, maybe half of the total, are behaving strange. Wen, i.e.,I try to change preset with the page buttons, I push the page up button, and the thing just ignore my command, change the preset as I expected, or just skip one or more presets. One of the weirdest behaviours, it's the mod envelope routing button, that sometimes, instead of cycle clockwise, make an step backwards
The OS is the 2.14. Can be a bug? As I said, the machine it's in mint condition. The knobs feel tight, and button feel are just right, nothing loose or any strange noise. Not any sign of abuse, not even a minimal scratch.
Any idea? I'm really liking this machine as his older brother, but this is driving me nuts.
Thank you all!
Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour
I blowed compressed air between the buttons, and now it's working a bit better. I'll try with some electronic contact cleaner, but maybe it's better to open the whole thing. I'll keep you posted, to see if I can help someone else from the future, having the same problems.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour
If ever you want to use a contact cleaner for the buttons (maybe this is OK), I learned never to do this with the keys' contacts. You wash the graphite away that serves as contact.
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour
That can indeed happen with dirty/damaged encoders. So no it's very likely not a bug... although I'm not sure if that had been better or not! If you can open it and clean it easily, then no big issue... Otherwise, at Syntaur they sell several spare parts.Nutritivo wrote:One of the weirdest behaviours, it's the mod envelope routing button, that sometimes, instead of cycle clockwise, make an step backwards
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Hi there,
Finally used WD 40 Contact Cleaner and now all the buttons are working like a charm! No even needed to open the Nord, I just sprayed a bit around every button gap and voilà!
Also, I got rid of some pesky noise in my interface's headphone output.
If you are experiencing some similar problems, I can't recommend this product enough.
Cheers!
Finally used WD 40 Contact Cleaner and now all the buttons are working like a charm! No even needed to open the Nord, I just sprayed a bit around every button gap and voilà!
Also, I got rid of some pesky noise in my interface's headphone output.
If you are experiencing some similar problems, I can't recommend this product enough.
Cheers!
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour
I have a couple of buttons on my nord lead a1, incidentally the ones I virtually never press (for toggling fx type and for toggling filter type) that occasionally are detected as double presses. After having pressed them a lot today, they are now working fine.Nutritivo wrote:Hi there,
Finally used WD 40 Contact Cleaner and now all the buttons are working like a charm! No even needed to open the Nord, I just sprayed a bit around every button gap and voilà!
Also, I got rid of some pesky noise in my interface's headphone output.
If you are experiencing some similar problems, I can't recommend this product enough.
Cheers!
But i'm worried this double press might come back.
Would wd40 contact cleaner you refer to be better than isopropyl alcohol? I have a can of the latter.
Also, I could try your method with the wd40 contact cleaner , i'm just dubious how does it manage to travel through the gap and the cap well into the button and into the contacts? I would imagine you would need to open the keyboard.
Alternatively I could open the keyboard and take the caps off and metal spring off the buttons and blow air and spray isopropyl alcohol on the contacts and spring?
Any recommendation? thx!
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Here's someone who worked as a pro technician for Nord instruments in the US: Pablo Mastodon. On deoxit spray being not the best bet - at least for spraying into the instrument without good targeting. post74823.html#p74823
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Re: Nord Wave funny button behaviour
Thanks, I read that post, but Pablo I think is referring to keyboard contacts, i'm referring to simple on/off buttons, where a piece of bent metal under a plastic cap acts as a springy on and off circuit.FZiegler wrote:Here's someone who worked as a pro technician for Nord instruments in the US: Pablo Mastodon. On deoxit spray being not the best bet. post74823.html#p74823
I never heard of deoxit, what is the difference between isopropyl alcohol, wd40 contact cleaner and deoxit?
I believe the first two hopefully won't leave residue?
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I won't give any advice concerning your isopropyl alcohol - I'm not experienced in that matter.
The mixture of WD40 isn't the same everywhere in the world. But as it's also used as lubricant, it will certainly have residues: some oil that might attract dust.
De-Oxit seems to be the name of a product - an electrical contact cleaner. It's supposed to work against the thin oxide layer on the contacts rarely used. I don't have any idea about the other points on that product you have to be careful with. If ever you'd use that contact cleaner spray, don't spray it around - that's what I think what Pablo wanted to state.
In my eyes it was a good idea to first try to just press those buttons a couple of times until they worked again. No worry at all about that.
The mixture of WD40 isn't the same everywhere in the world. But as it's also used as lubricant, it will certainly have residues: some oil that might attract dust.
De-Oxit seems to be the name of a product - an electrical contact cleaner. It's supposed to work against the thin oxide layer on the contacts rarely used. I don't have any idea about the other points on that product you have to be careful with. If ever you'd use that contact cleaner spray, don't spray it around - that's what I think what Pablo wanted to state.
In my eyes it was a good idea to first try to just press those buttons a couple of times until they worked again. No worry at all about that.
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