Nord's classical Virtual Analog Synth Nord LEAD 1/2/2x/3/4/A1 and Nord Rack versions

NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby Flintholm » 23 Jun 2021, 13:54

Hi

I have some encoders that needs to be replaced. The Master Encoder with clicks and some of the other encoders without clicks. I found this possible replacement for the Master Encoder, is this the correct one:

# Bourns Inc. ECW1D-C24-CC0024L

But i cant find the other encoders. Can anyone help ?
Flintholm
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 23 Jun 2021, 13:45
Country: Denmark
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 0 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

NL3 Encoder Replacement


Sponsor
 

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby maxpiano » 23 Jun 2021, 14:56

Hi, Syntaur has those encoders in its lists, it does not specify the brand/model but at least it indicates the number of detents (24 for the master encoder, no detents for the others).

https://syntaur.com/keyboard.php?keyboard=379

but it would be easier for you to ask to your local official Nord post-sales assistance provider, they may be OK to provide you just the parts for a fair price (in Italy for example it is http://www.masterservice.tk and those encoders are listed on the website and available for purchase Link)
Last edited by maxpiano on 23 Jun 2021, 17:55, edited 5 times in total.

The author maxpiano was thanked by:
Flintholm
User avatar
maxpiano
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 6245
Joined: 27 Jun 2011, 13:29
Location: Italy
Country: Italy
Has thanked: 448 times
Been thanked: 2196 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby Flintholm » 23 Jun 2021, 15:18

Hi maxpiano - Thank you very much. I will look into your links. The Italian prices looks ok.

best regards Flintholm
Flintholm
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 23 Jun 2021, 13:45
Country: Denmark
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 0 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby 23skidoo » 23 Jun 2021, 15:28

I confirmed with Bourns that the other encoders are not directly available as they were a custom batch for Nord. Their engineer suggested P/N ECW1D-C24-AE0036L as the closest equivalent, if you can't find the Clavia-specific part (P/N ECW1D-C24-SE0/049L) in stock.

The author 23skidoo was thanked by 2 members, including:
Thiago ArgeuFlintholm
23skidoo
 
Posts: 504
Joined: 27 Nov 2018, 18:58
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 189 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby Flintholm » 23 Jun 2021, 15:43

Hi 23skidoo

Thanks for your answer - i will check it out. It would be nice if i could order both types from the same supplier, f.ex. Mouser or Digi-Key

I see that the suggested replacement part (P/N ECW1D-C24-AE0036L) has a round shaft, but i need a D shaft encoder - do you know if this is available ?

best regards
Last edited by Flintholm on 23 Jun 2021, 15:49, edited 1 time in total.
Flintholm
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 23 Jun 2021, 13:45
Country: Denmark
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 0 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby 23skidoo » 24 Jun 2021, 15:49

Not sure where you got the idea that that part has a round shaft, but it's incorrect - the C24 in the middle means that it's a D-shaft, 19mm long. Check the datasheet, don't trust distributor websites: https://www.bourns.com/docs/product-dat ... f8c470f5_6

I replaced the main 24ppr encoder (the detented one near the display) with a digi-key generic part, but I haven't replaced any of the non-detented "fast" encoders yet. If I needed to, I'd probably just buy the original Clavia part from syntaur or another vendor, but if those weren't available I'd be willing to give some variant of the alternate part number a shot.

The author 23skidoo was thanked by:
Flintholm
23skidoo
 
Posts: 504
Joined: 27 Nov 2018, 18:58
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 189 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby Flintholm » 27 Jun 2021, 17:06

I found photos from digi-key, farnell, mouser and other suppliers offering the P/N ECW1D-C24-AE0036L and they all show that they have a round shaft, so sorry for the confusion, but when i look at det data sheet you supplied, there are 5 different shaft shapes. Thanks for helping out and explaining that C24 is a D-shaft :-)

best regards
Flintholm
 
Posts: 4
Joined: 23 Jun 2021, 13:45
Country: Denmark
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 0 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby elektron84 » 02 Dec 2023, 03:08

I bought the replacement encoder from Syntaur to replace mine.

I'm having trouble removing the knob cap. I pulled with a fair amount of force but it didn't budge and I'm afraid of breaking it. Not very experienced, any tips?
elektron84
 
Posts: 10
Joined: 30 Jul 2021, 09:22
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: NL3 Encoder Replacement

Postby 23skidoo » 02 Dec 2023, 18:21

I used some plastic levers that came in an iFixIt kit to do that, yeah they're stiff at first. You can try using a lever of some kind on both sides - always pull them evenly - you *really* don't want the shaft to snap off in the knob! They take a fair amount of force to get started, but once they start to move its easier from there. Using controllable and balanced leverage is the key.
23skidoo
 
Posts: 504
Joined: 27 Nov 2018, 18:58
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 189 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 3


Return to Nord Lead / Rack Forum



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests