Hi all ,
I've had a look through all the threads on the Stand EX and I couldn't find an answer to this one, but please forgive me if I've missed it and I'm repeating something here.
I am wondering how owners of the EX find the 'final move' in setting the stand up - i.e. actually turning the piano the right way up again with the legs now attached. Nord's instruction video is clear on everything - really helpful - until it suddenly cuts to the piano being *magically* the right way up again. It seems to me that this might be a bit of a challenge by oneself?
I have a Piano 4 and I'd love move away from a X frame stand. The Stand EX looks great - but it's the need to turn the thing the right way up again that worries me. Any experience shared would be much appreciated.
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
Look as if you should be 2 persons to turn it up. Then it should be easy.
Just ask two of your roadies. And don't forget the blanket to lay the piano on.
Just ask two of your roadies. And don't forget the blanket to lay the piano on.
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
Yes - the two person thing was what I suspected, which isn't so ideal if you go out as a solo player...
I was thinking I could lay it upside-down in the Nord case to attach the legs.
I was thinking I could lay it upside-down in the Nord case to attach the legs.
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
I used it for along time solo. I put two half foam rolls into my nord bag. So i could put the keyboard upside down into the case. Then put the legs on. For turning the keyboard i grabed it on one leg (right under the mount) and my other hand goes to the opposide edge of the keyboard. Due to the weight of the legs and the space that is in the middle i was able to turn it quiete easly with no help from others. I did this very often and never had any problems
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
FZiegler wrote:Look as if you should be 2 persons to turn it up. Then it should be easy.
Just ask two of your roadies. And don't forget the blanket to lay the piano on.
Or, for 1 person operations, bring a X stand too, just to keep it lifted while you attach the legs
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
I had this stand with my piano3. I do it alone like that:
- the piano is in the nord softcase.
- knee in front of the open case, the four legs, the two struts and srews beside you
- put the piano in the case on the backside and hold it with one hand
- begin with the legs, srew them in - than connect the two struts
- stand up, grab the piano by the front legs, right under the bottom of the piano and pull
the instrument in the right position
It work for me, after doing it several times. It take at least under five minutes.
- the piano is in the nord softcase.
- knee in front of the open case, the four legs, the two struts and srews beside you
- put the piano in the case on the backside and hold it with one hand
- begin with the legs, srew them in - than connect the two struts
- stand up, grab the piano by the front legs, right under the bottom of the piano and pull
the instrument in the right position
It work for me, after doing it several times. It take at least under five minutes.
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
Thanks all - very helpful. Sounds as if it's possible with one, which is good news. Still, would've been nice if the demo video had included the moment of turning
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
I never liked the Nord Stand. While I like the idea of fixed legs as opposite to a wobbly stand, in practice I see quite a few disadvantages.
- fixed height
- quite complicated to mount, and I don't like at all the idea of turning the keyboard on its back or even upside down, risking damage to the back connections or to the knobs, pitch lever and mod wheel. Of course risk will be minimal if the procedure is made with care, but if one is using the keyboard for gigging, it will be made very often (twice per gig/rehearsal, multiple times per week) and often setup-teardown is a busy, hurried and chaotic part of the gig, where the probability of making a mistake increases.
- it's not so light, it weighs just a little less than a good table stand like the K&M 18810.
- of course, like anything Nord, it's quite expensive.
So compared to a good X, Z or table stand, the Nord legs are less practical, more expensive, not so much lighter, and at higher risk of damaging the keyboard through a more complicated setup-teardown process that requires turning the instrument upside-down multiple times. Uhm... I think I'll keep using my K&M 18950 and QuickLok Z71
- fixed height
- quite complicated to mount, and I don't like at all the idea of turning the keyboard on its back or even upside down, risking damage to the back connections or to the knobs, pitch lever and mod wheel. Of course risk will be minimal if the procedure is made with care, but if one is using the keyboard for gigging, it will be made very often (twice per gig/rehearsal, multiple times per week) and often setup-teardown is a busy, hurried and chaotic part of the gig, where the probability of making a mistake increases.
- it's not so light, it weighs just a little less than a good table stand like the K&M 18810.
- of course, like anything Nord, it's quite expensive.
So compared to a good X, Z or table stand, the Nord legs are less practical, more expensive, not so much lighter, and at higher risk of damaging the keyboard through a more complicated setup-teardown process that requires turning the instrument upside-down multiple times. Uhm... I think I'll keep using my K&M 18950 and QuickLok Z71
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Re: Stand EX - the final setup move?
Once I learned how, setting up/breaking down the Stand EX became second nature (73-note HP, for reference). 2.5 minutes tops, never a risk of damage. I too use my soft case to invert my instrument, and the whole thing including legs still weighs comparatively nothing.
Stability (i.e., not even a hint of wobble) is my highest priority in a stand, looks follows a close second, and ease of setup is third. I have no roadies, and a third-party stand usually means one extra trip to the car (ugh). When I need a second tier for a gig, that means an X-Stand... but my gosh they are ugly in comparison, and restrict the usable pedal space.
Stability (i.e., not even a hint of wobble) is my highest priority in a stand, looks follows a close second, and ease of setup is third. I have no roadies, and a third-party stand usually means one extra trip to the car (ugh). When I need a second tier for a gig, that means an X-Stand... but my gosh they are ugly in comparison, and restrict the usable pedal space.
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