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Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby peteques » 20 Feb 2020, 01:22

Hi all,
How can we find out the models of the piano samples? Some are easy eg Grand Lady D is a Steinway D. But for example what model Fazioli is the Italian grand, what is the Velvet grand, what is the Amber upright or what model Bosendorfer is the Queen upright etc?
Thanks Pete
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby baekgaard » 20 Feb 2020, 02:06

This is often not mentioned directly, but there is often a clue on either the name or the info you see when you press the info button.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby pablomastodon » 27 Feb 2020, 18:42

a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby maxpiano » 27 Feb 2020, 19:51

baekgaard wrote:This is often not mentioned directly, but there is often a clue on either the name or the info you see when you press the info button.


That and also a search on this forum may help... ;-)

pablomastodon wrote:a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....


also true @Pablo "the poet" Mastodon :mrgreen:
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby FZiegler » 28 Feb 2020, 03:37

Maybe true everything, but as a beginner, I would like to know a little more especially about the miking and the optimal uses. I find the given names quite helpful for a first impression and somewhat cute, but don't like them much - I'm coming from classical music, and it makes my stomach rumbling having to play just a "white", a "bright" or a "queen" piano - not to mention "velvet" which I don't like as a feeling at all. And as there are words to discern the different sounds, I would appreciate having other connotations for those sounds.

I fully understand that Clavia may not be allowed to mention the names of the instruments as far as it is a branding thing. But we should be allowed to share real names if we have hints, don't we?

I guess that as soon as my ears will recognize the sounds, I won't need the names any more - but at the moment, I think I do. And maybe, I will even then say "the 2019 Steinway approach" instead of "White Grand".

BTW: What do you think about a "knowledge base" in the forum where faq info is stored? I think I sometimes came across such piano info on the forum but couldn't find that again - even with the search function. I also had to find out about the way the Stage 3 is handling sound names. Could have been easier if you know that (trunking the version no. with space before).
Edit: Sorry, there is one - I hadn't noticed, or forgotten.

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NameVersionInstrument presumedTechnical notesReleasedSizes, MB (legacy)
Soft Grand6.1Yamaha G2?12/2023200/117/97/61
White Grand6.3Steinway B-211? (by SampleTekk 2016?)06/2019204/130/114/69
6.1245/155/110/67
Royal Grand 3D6.1Yamaha S6dummy head (ambient), for use with headphones12/2016208/103/86/54 (200/99/82/51)
Velvet Grand6.1Blüthner Model 1?12/2015197/112/92/61 (190/106/87/58)
Silver Grand6.1Shigeru Kawai SK-7?07/2015203/105/89/55 (194/100/85/53)
Italian Grand6.1Fazioli ?slightly ambient?12/2012189/101/85/51 (182/97/82/49)
Bright Grand6.1Yamaha S4?06/2011195/88/74/45 (196/87/72/44)
Grand Imperial6.1Bösendorfer Imperial? (maybe by SampleTekk)03/2011198/90/75/44 (197/90/74/44)
Grand Lady D5.3Steinway D-274? (maybe by SampleTekk)03/201179/61/39
Studio Grand 15.3Yamaha C 7close-up (derived from SampleTekk's The Big One)03/201169/57/35
Studio Grand 26.2Yamaha C 7close-up, custom preamps (maybe or not related to SampleTekk's 7CG Mk2)03/2011177/94/81/49 (69/55/34)
Concert Grand close5.3Steinway D-274close-up, for live (derived from SampleTekk Black Grand)03/201158/46/29
Concert Grand ambient5.3Steinway D-274ambient: concert hall, for recording (derived from SampleTekk Black Grand)03/201157/44/29
Steinway No15.2Steinway No.1 'Kitchen Piano' replica (1836/2006)?01/2017132
Mozart FortePno A.Walter6.1Anton Walter Fortepiano (1780~1800)?01/2016157/110/95/59 (149/105/91/56)
Beethoven ForteP Broadwood5.3Thomas Broadwood Fortepiano (~1820)?01/2016151/99/84/52
Perl Upright6.0Grotrian-Steinweg Mod. 120?12/2022182/121/102/65
Felt Piano6.2Yamaha SU118modified: felt inserted between hammers and strings01/2022186/115/97/61
Baby Upright6.1Nordiska compact?12/2017136/95/83/50 (124/87/76/46)
Amber Upright6.2Grotrian-Steinweg Concerto G132?07/2017165/102/87/53 (162/100/84/51)
Bambino Upright6.1Baldwin spinet piano (Acrosonic, as Pscooter63 guesses)6.1 L and XL have an issue on the loudest F6 and F#6 sound; obviously, 6.2 (available through the NP5 factory bundle) and 5.4 versions don't (see here)07/2016132/102/86/55 (125/97/82/52)
Mellow Upright6.1Bösendorfer C 130extra soft felt hammers10/2014170/98/81/50 (171/98/80/50)
Grand Upright5.4Yamaha U3?10/2013160/86/71/43
Queen Upright5.3Bösendorfer ??03/201166/52/32
Black Upright6.1Petrof 132softened hammers03/201179/59/38 (65/52/33)
HonkyTonk Upright6.1Baumgardtmodified: nails replacing felt hammers03/201157/47/29 (55/45/28)
Saloon Upright5.3Baumgardtdetuned03/201161/49/30
Romantic Upright6.1Schimmel Fortissimo 108 'Chippendale' (1967)?03/201173/59/ (60/48/29)36
BlueSwede Large Upright5.3Östlind & Almquist (now: Malmsjö)stereo03/201169/56/34
Rain Piano5.3Svenska Pianofabrikenclose-up miking (by SampleTekk, derived from their Rain Upright)03/201147/37/23
EGrand 36.1Yamaha CP80tube amped02/201422 (63/31)
EGrand 2 Gerbstadt5.3Gerbstadt Grand with CP80-pickups?03/20116
EGrand 1 CP805.3Yamaha CP80?03/20119
DigiGrand 26.0Roland RD1000 (according to Tony White/Bonner's)?08/201710 (10)
DigiGrand 16.0Roland XP80 ??08/201712 (10)
DX Full Tines6.0Yamaha DX7 internal voicedigital FM synthesis08/201712 (10)
DX Rubba Tines6.0Yamaha DX7 ?digital FM synthesis08/201712 (10)
EP 9 Stockholm MkI6.0Rhodes Mk I (1976)most detailed dynamic range06/2023101/51/35
EP 8 Nefertiti MkI6.2Rhodes Suitcase Mk I "Nefertiti Club Göteborg" (1970)?12/201829/14/9 (20)
EP 7 Amped Tines6.1Rhodes Mk Itube amped, medium12/201833/18 (31)
EP 6 Sparkletop6.1Fender Rhodes 'Silvertop' Electric Piano (1967), ideal timbre?12/201820/11 (12)
EP 5 Bright Tines, bright timbre6.1Rhodes Suitcase Mk I (1975)'close miking'?12/201824/15 (15)
EP 4 Mk5 80s6.1Rhodes Stage Mk V (1984), ideal timbreclose-up12/201812/7/7
EP 3 Shallow Close6.1Rhodes Stage Mk II (1981)close-up12/201811/7 (7)
EP 2 Ideal Timbre6.1Rhodes Suitcase Mk I (1975)close-up12/201810/7 (6)
EP 1 Deep Timbre6.1Rhodes Stage Mk I (1978)low amplitude12/201812/7 (6)
Wurlitzer 16.3Wurlitzer A200straight?03/20118 (6)
Wurlitzer 2 Amped6.1Wurlitzer A200tube amped12/201323(24)
Clavinet D66.1Hohner Clavinet D6?05/20106 (6)

I won't label the timbre of the APs because this will schedule too much. Besides, most information given at the moment is available through hints that anyone can get with a Nord under his/her fingers. There are some claims and rumours about relations to SampleTekk sounds; the only one I really believe in is this short forum entry. Time details thanks to a post from ajstan.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby CountFosco » 28 Feb 2020, 22:13

Jekyll Fosco likes FZiegler's post :angel: , but Hyde Fosco loves Pablo's :twisted:

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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby PScooter63 » 29 Feb 2020, 08:34

I'm convinced that the Bambino is a Baldwin Acrosonic, although what year I couldn't begin to guess. Sonically, it's a dead match for my mom-in-law's, from the mid-1940s.

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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby FZiegler » 29 Feb 2020, 11:50

Haven't ever seen an instrument like that: Baldwin Acrosonic from 1955, another one even more beautiful. I've rather seen some old hulks in the family with 1.5 times the volume - sound astonishingly quite near: not really bright, but rather thin - a little muffled, but with little bass.

Thanks, PScooter63, for that tip: I'll get it back onto my Stage, had already kicked it off.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby peteques » 29 Feb 2020, 17:11

pablomastodon wrote:a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....

Yes - I must remember that!

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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?

Postby peteques » 29 Feb 2020, 17:13

To FZiegler - thanks so so much for your chart - brilliant!

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