New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
This looked like a neat new piece of equipment so I took a look at the manual. I think I may be missing something:
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_p ... oduct-tabs
I see the following:
Organs: 3 VC organs and 3 FM organs
Pianos: 3 Grand APs, 1 Upright AP, 2 Electric Grands, 2 Layer Pianos,
E Pianos: 5 Rhodes, 3 Wurli, 3 Clav, 7 FM
Synth: 113 Sounds from all categories
As far as I can tell, there is no ability to load samples, or create new sounds with the synth engine. You can only add effects and splits/layers, change the ADR and save to a Live Set. Live sets can be backed up and restored, but not sounds.
With a street price $1,999 (only $200 less than an Electro), I guess the appeal will be for those who definitively prefer the built-in sounds and want pitch-bend and modulation controls.
Within the Yamaha line, other than the Organ you can get everything else with exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price.
Again, I could be missing something and future updates could add new capabilities, but IMHO, I'm not seeing how this is worth 2x the price of a VR09 or 90% of an Electro 6.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_p ... oduct-tabs
I see the following:
Organs: 3 VC organs and 3 FM organs
Pianos: 3 Grand APs, 1 Upright AP, 2 Electric Grands, 2 Layer Pianos,
E Pianos: 5 Rhodes, 3 Wurli, 3 Clav, 7 FM
Synth: 113 Sounds from all categories
As far as I can tell, there is no ability to load samples, or create new sounds with the synth engine. You can only add effects and splits/layers, change the ADR and save to a Live Set. Live sets can be backed up and restored, but not sounds.
With a street price $1,999 (only $200 less than an Electro), I guess the appeal will be for those who definitively prefer the built-in sounds and want pitch-bend and modulation controls.
Within the Yamaha line, other than the Organ you can get everything else with exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price.
Again, I could be missing something and future updates could add new capabilities, but IMHO, I'm not seeing how this is worth 2x the price of a VR09 or 90% of an Electro 6.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
The architecture is a *little bit* closer to what I’d like to see Nord create: an upper tier keyboard with organ and synth (lead/pad) sections. Not necessarily putting these features in an Electro, but more like adding mashing a Lead and organ together with a 5 or 6 octave waterfall key action.
However, the organ on the YC sounds glassy to me, and I don’t generally like Yamaha’s approach to user interfaces, despite their attempt to copy Nord in this regard.
Nice to see Yamaha finally get into the clone game, but not compelling enough for me to dump my Stage or Electro.
However, the organ on the YC sounds glassy to me, and I don’t generally like Yamaha’s approach to user interfaces, despite their attempt to copy Nord in this regard.
Nice to see Yamaha finally get into the clone game, but not compelling enough for me to dump my Stage or Electro.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
I think Yamaha is going to sell a bunch of them, simply because it looks like a competent instrument from Yamaha. I also think Nord (Clavia) is thinking about their next move to put more distance between the YC and the next Nord Electro.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world. I'll pass.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
Almost Copy-Paste....They forgot just a small detail: to paint it red!!!
Sonicaly, it is more "digital sounding" far from the warm, organic sound of a Nord. As for the promotional video, they are certainly trying enter the Nord territory. Not likely to catch many fish IMO.
Sonicaly, it is more "digital sounding" far from the warm, organic sound of a Nord. As for the promotional video, they are certainly trying enter the Nord territory. Not likely to catch many fish IMO.
Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
it's basically a cheaper CP88 / CP73 which was teased as the Stage 3 killer. to be honest, I had the chance to try a CP88 out, ok, not impressed at all, who puts micro metal toggle switches to modules, they're so flimsy they'd break, then you're screwed. weak build design and to be honest, the sound just didn't have it. ok sound wise, the monitors connected to it were crap so it didn't help my decision, either way I'm a nord guy and shall continue to be.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
That synth section filter knob is the one thing I miss on my Electros - using the eq to simulate it is a workaround that can be inadequate at times.
Other than that, I see nothing that would make me switch sides. If I was in the market for an organ-centric all-in-1 light-weight board, however, it'd be serious competition.
Other than that, I see nothing that would make me switch sides. If I was in the market for an organ-centric all-in-1 light-weight board, however, it'd be serious competition.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
competition is there to inspire, if a company doesn't see competition as inspiration to improve or break a barrier, it's not doing it's job.
the Yc61 will retail for about £2000 or under. a bit steep considering the electro 6-61 is cheaper and sexier.
the Yc61 will retail for about £2000 or under. a bit steep considering the electro 6-61 is cheaper and sexier.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro
61 keys is a bit too cramped for an all-in-one instrument. Let's see if they come out with a 73/76 waterfall version.
Mike from Central NJ, USA
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Ownership History: Electro 2, Electro 3-73 SW, Electro 3HP, Electro 4D, Stage 2EX 76HP