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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby Mr_-G- » 02 Jan 2016, 14:05

If you want a generic damper pedal part to replicate exactly how the Nord triple pedal works, you need 4 microswitches and some resistors as shown in maxpiano's diagram in this thread.
You might be able to modify an existing pedal, but I bet it will be quite difficult to first find the right place to put the switches inside it and secondly to calibrate (by position or height) so the switches operate at the right positions along the travel of the pedal.
If you find a way of doing this, please let us know.

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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby parencibia » 03 Jan 2016, 23:46

Hello all:

First of all, thank you Patschi because your post is the only guide I could find over the Internet on how to dissasembly the Nord triple pedal.

I had to dissasembly it because the spring under the right pedal broke (I swear I didn't push it like a possessed freak :-) ). It looks like the spring quality was not very good. Anyway, the point is that after dismantling it I found two identical plastic pieces inside the pedal cover that I don't remember removing, so I have no clue where I should put them back. Can anyone help me to find out where I should put them when I am assembling the pedal please?

I attach a picture of one of them, so that you can recognize them.

I plan to go to a local shop to try to find a similar spring. If anyone has any other suggestions to find the exact same spring size and resistance, I'd also appreciate them.

Thank you in advance!
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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby pasrick » 04 Jan 2016, 05:35

maxpiano wrote:
pasrick wrote:I see this thread is a year old but I just found it today because; even though I have the Nord triple petal, I have always wanted a single more portable petal that provides the same sustain function as the Nord triple petal. I too am frustrated that Clavia does not offer such an item. While I could live without the petal noise if I had too, I really, really hate to do without the half-petaling function. The solution provided by Maxpiano is quite intriguing but also a bit beyond my competence level as a do-it-yourselfer. Does anyone know if it is possible to do a more basic mod of a Roland DP-10 or a Yamaha FC3A petal that would allow it to have half-petaling functionality with the Stage 2. I tried a factory issue Yamaha FC3A and it doesn't work as is, I wondered about trying a Roland DP-10 and after reading this post I know now that it does not either, at least not without the described modification. Does anyone have any other suggestions?


Hi pasrick, we already answed that: continuous sustain pedals using a potentiometer (all models you have listed) won't work as they cannot be modified to that purpose just using passive components or circuit rerouting (please read all thread from the start for the details)

As an alternative if you are using a secondary master keyboard which can accept continuou sustain pedals you can use it and program it send the related MIDI CC to the NS Global MIDI Channel or (last not least) if you don'use a second keyboard) you can use a MidiSolutions Pedalcontroller.

PS: In theory you could also modify a single "open at rest" on/off pedal (the way I did with the rightmost pedal of the VFP3) then properly recable it to a stereo plug (but I haven't tried, when playing live in a band I just use an on-off, no eed really for Pedal Noise or Half Damper subtleties). But you need expertise and also accept the risk of damage and/or void warranty.



First off, thank you Maxpiano for the reply. I thought I had read the entire thread but it turns out I was only on the last page. My bad.
For better or worse my second keyboard is a Stage 2 Compact so I can't use it for the sustain of my 88 without using the Nord triple petal, oh well. The MidiSolution Pedalcontroller seems to have promise though, I hadn't considered that solution. Thanks!
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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby Patschi » 06 Jan 2016, 12:08

parencibia wrote:Hello all:
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Anyway, the point is that after dismantling it I found two identical plastic pieces inside the pedal cover that I don't remember removing, so I have no clue where I should put them back. Can anyone help me to find out where I should put them when I am assembling the pedal please?

I attach a picture of one of them, so that you can recognize them.

Thank you in advance!


This thing belongs to the inside of the bottom plate preventing the rear rubber feet from being pressed into the housing.

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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby parencibia » 07 Jan 2016, 04:33

Thank you SO much Patschi!!!
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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby guentergunter » 03 Nov 2017, 19:42

maxpiano wrote:Image



I did some further research and have been able to produce the appropriate MIDI CC data: See thread

With these values, the problem of a too loud sounding "pedal noise" feature is gone for me :thumbup:

By the way: Half-damping seems not to work with my solution. Anyone an idea? :roll:
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Re: Inside Triple Pedal, modification

Postby groovejazz » 08 Nov 2019, 14:29

How about the other way around and taking the electronics of the triple pedal in a single padal?
Many guys in the forum have reported, that their triple pedals are broken. So is mine, sostenuto and the middle pedal stopped working, but the damper with noise and halfpedal works fine. Although in most of the reported cases, the reason was a broken cable only, I think about, if its possible to make a single and more handy pedal out of it. I think the problem would be to cut the circuit board.
If the triple pedal breaks often it would be easy to buy one of those...

...now I changed the cable and everything works fine, but still it's big and heavy :D
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