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Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby eibinger » 16 Feb 2018, 20:31

Does anyone know, whether it is possible, to send only the transpose-command via midi to a second board and no other command?
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby anotherscott » 16 Feb 2018, 20:56

There is no such thing as a MIDI transpose command.
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby electrojean » 19 Sep 2019, 14:02

Bonjour
OuI il ya les CC 52 et 53, mais je ne sais pas comment ca marche
est ce que quelqu un peu me l'expliquer
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby maxpiano » 19 Sep 2019, 14:15

electrojean wrote:Bonjour
OuI il ya les CC 52 et 53, mais je ne sais pas comment ca marche
est ce que quelqu un peu me l'expliquer
Merci
Jean


Hello, this forum is in English only, please (s'il vous plait).

As already explained, there are no standard (cross model/brand) MIDI CCs for that, even if some keyboards may have custom implementations (like NE5 does with "Transpose Enable" = CC52 and "Transpose Value" = CC53). The question of this thread was how to "send" those messages only to other boards and in general this is not possible.
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby electrojean » 19 Sep 2019, 14:24

1000 excuses SORRY
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby electrojean » 19 Sep 2019, 14:34

i try in inglish!!!
To send CC 52(select transpose) and 53 (value) Message i have "Mobilesheet" aplli on android and Windows who is an MIDI editor, but i don't understant where are the values who produce the half semi tone : -1 2 3 4 5 6 and + 1 2 3 4 5 6
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby electrojean » 19 Sep 2019, 14:42

Maybe i make a mistake for my demand

I want receive midi message (CC52 and CC53) from a MDI editor on my ELECTRO 5 to have automatic transposition
Sorry for my english

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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby maxpiano » 19 Sep 2019, 15:07

No problem Jean, the easiest way is to use a MIDI Monitor app to see which values are being sent by NE when switching the Transpose on/off and changing its value.

On a PC you can use MidiOx, on iPad there is MidiWrench, on Mac there is "MIDI Monitor" (just Google for the one applicable for you) ;)

Otherwise just try a few values and see what happens 8-)

PS: check also that NE5 has MIDI "Control Change Mode" set to Send/Receive in its MIDI options.
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby pablomastodon » 20 Sep 2019, 16:51

Most instrument makers will usually spread their parameter values evenly across the 0-127 range. So, for example, sustain pedal on/off via midi will be 0-63 = off, 64-127 will be on.

The Nord transpose range is -6 to +6 for a total of 13 different values. Divide 127 by 13 to get 9.8, roughly 10. The actual parameter value change points will vary slightly to accommodate for the fractional result, but if you choose to use values which all end in "4" or "5" you should be able to safely predict the instrument's response.

That is:

MIDI VALUE TRANSPOSE AMOUNT
4 -6
14 -5
24 -4
34 -3

etc.
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Re: Sending only transpose via Midi

Postby electrojean » 21 Sep 2019, 09:05

thank you very much for your help
i try what you say
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