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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby PScooter63 » 24 May 2019, 06:24

ponkine wrote:If this is going to play like a Korg Kronos, or any other of theirs with the RH3 action ...

Do we know for a fact that Kawai was the OEM source for Kronos's keybed? They're not actually styled/spelled the same: RH-3 vs. RHIII...
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Postby Spider » 24 May 2019, 10:15

PScooter63 wrote:Do we know for a fact that Kawai was the OEM source for Kronos's keybed? They're not actually styled/spelled the same: RH-3 vs. RHIII...


As far as I know, they're different actions from different manufacturers. Nothing to do with each other except similar names.

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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby motif88 » 14 Jun 2019, 15:05

It’s the tweaked version of the action in the well regarded Kawai VPC1...
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby maxpiano » 14 Jun 2019, 15:26

motif88 wrote:It’s the tweaked version of the action in the well regarded Kawai VPC1...


Not at all, as discussed previously it is most likely derived from the keybed of the MP7 (RH III while the VPC1 uses the RM3).
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby anotherscott » 14 Jun 2019, 21:22

Right, and you wouldn't expect it to be the VPC action, as that model weighs 65 lbs with very little electronics in it. It is based on the Kawai RHIII. (And not the Korg RH3.)
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby motif88 » 15 Jun 2019, 16:39

My bad... Kawai likes to use very similar naming conventions
VPC1 = RM3II
Nord = RHIII
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby maxpiano » 30 Jun 2019, 19:29

+PianistDallas+ wrote:From owning 20 digital pianos I can tell you I hear about 28% more detail in the NORD sound.


Are you sure? I think it is closer to 29%, at least 28.79% ...
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby pablomastodon » 05 Jul 2019, 18:00

Is that metric percent or English Standard percent?
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby HwyStar » 05 Jul 2019, 23:38

I went to a Kawai store today and played the RHIII...

And, I was not sure if I liked it or I disliked it.

It was sort of hard to tell because I was listening to a Kawai sample and not a Nord. The action was fast and somewhat light, but it also was a little bit springy. In an artificial kind of way; sort of. Does your MP7SE feel that same way too +PianistDallas+?

I can see how this action would allow jazz players to scream on it since it did bounce back quickly. But that is not the way a true grand responds. Maybe it should really be called the Nord Performer and not the NG?

If you have an RHIII action let us know your thoughts. :)

Or better yet if you have the time and it is convenient, go play an RHIII and report back your thoughts, please. I am torn on its feel. At least for me and my abilities to play it like it is a grand piano.
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Re: NORD GRAND KEYBED: customized RH3

Postby baekgaard » 06 Jul 2019, 00:16

HwyStar wrote:I went to a Kawai store today and played the RHIII...

And, I was not sure if I liked it or I disliked it.

It was sort of hard to tell because I was listening to a Kawai sample and not a Nord. The action was fast and somewhat light, but it also was a little bit springy. In an artificial kind of way; sort of. Does your MP7SE feel that same way too +PianistDallas+?

I can see how this action would allow jazz players to scream on it since it did bounce back quickly. But that is not the way a true grand responds. Maybe it should really be called the Nord Performer and not the NG?

If you have an RHIII action let us know your thoughts. :)

Or better yet if you have the time and it is convenient, go play an RHIII and report back your thoughts, please. I am torn on its feel. At least for me and my abilities to play it like it is a grand piano.
It's probably best to play the Nord version as it appears not to be the exact same keyboard. And the connection between keys and sound makes a huge difference in how it feels too.

So I would be very cautious and not judge the Nord Grand on how the kawaii plays.

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