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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby ajstan » 09 Aug 2018, 20:16

@analogika and @maxpiano - thanks for the replies. I’m just trying to figure out why Flange and Phaser behave differently than the other effects on the NS3.

For example, for all of these effects, I can set the Amount (or equivalent setting) to 0 with the effect of disabling the effect (and thus fully control the amount of the effect with the expression pedal):
A-Pan
Trem
RM
Wa-Wa
A-Wa 1
A-Wa 2
Vibe
Chor 1
Chor 2
Delay (Dry/Wet setting)
Drive
Reverb (Dry/Wet setting)
Compression

The other part of the effects question is: What is the basis for the model upon which each effect is designed? Is it how guitar pedals behave, how rack mounted DSP units work, or something else? If phasers and flangers in the analog world (or whatever the basis is) are no different than chorus, delay, was, distortion, etc., it would appear to be an arbitrary decision to not completely disable them when Amount is 0.

Anyhow, I guess I’ll submit a report/request to Nord and see what they say. I’ll report back if I get a response. Thanks again.
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby analogika » 09 Aug 2018, 20:30

On the Auto-Pan, setting the depth to zero does not disable the effect. It allows you to pan the signal left or right with the other pot.

Other than that, I agree that it is inconsistent. I too would prefer the phaser and flanger to go to zero.
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby ajstan » 09 Aug 2018, 21:33

@analogika you are correct that when the A-Pan Rate is set to 0, then the Amount dial turns into a L/R panning control (0=Full Left, 5=Center, 10=Full Right).

If the A-Pan Rate is set to a non-zero value, then setting the Amount at 0 will disable the A-Pan effect.
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby analogika » 09 Aug 2018, 22:33

Ah - i had the controls backwards. Thanks for setting that straight!
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby maxpiano » 09 Aug 2018, 22:34

ajstan wrote:The other part of the effects question is: What is the basis for the model upon which each effect is designed? Is it how guitar pedals behave, how rack mounted DSP units work, or something else?


The two phasers are modeled on the famous MXR Phase 90 and the EHX SmallStone, afaik.

EDIT: actually NS2 manual says “The digital models of the phasers in the Stage 2 are inspired by models like the Bi Phase, a classic unit that is heard all over some of the 70s most epic music, and the fierce Small Stone unit .” so I was 50% only correct, however I believe they kept the same in the NS3

Not sure what the references are for Flanger and Chorus instead, while for the Vibe it should be... the UniVibe (what else?) :D
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby ajstan » 09 Aug 2018, 23:34

Interesting info from the NS2 manual, @maxpiano. The NS3 manual only offers the following:

The Effects 1 and 2 units provide all essential modulation effects such as Tremolo, Chorus and Phaser, modeled after legendary stomp boxes and effects units. The Delay effect can go anywhere from solidly vintage to modern and atmospheric sounding - with its Analog mode and dedicated feedback filters.

I submitted the info about the non-consistent behavior of the phaser and flanger effects to Nord this afternoon and will share any response I get.
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby analogika » 10 Aug 2018, 13:13

I’d assume the chorus would be the CE-1 and the Dimension D.?
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby HrSys » 13 Aug 2018, 15:12

Today !
v1.42 (2018-08-13) on line
It is now possible to use morph, pitch bend and aftertouch vibrato for "passive" program during seamless transitions.
Improvements to handling of sustain pedal during seamless transitions.
The "Clear Synth Preset name" command is now accessed by pressing Shift+Mono/Legato.
Double clicking Sound Init (Shift+Unison) now quickly initialises the Synth.
Improvements to Compressor effect.
Using the Organize feature could cause inadvertent reordering of Programs, Songs or Synth Presets if dial was turned quickly. Fixed.
Delay effect could be caused to distort with certain settings and input signals. Fixed.
B3 organ could have too high volume level when loaded under certain circumstances. Fixed.
Local sustain pedal affected Dual KB as well. Fixed.
Category could incorrectly show up as "Undefined" in Store As with Synth Presets. Fixed.
Relink Program for Song did not work correctly in Nord Sound Manager. Fixed.
Piano EQ could cause audible click when setting was changed. Fixed.
Reloading program using Program 1-5 buttons did not always fully reset the program and notes could be cut off. Fixed.
Cosmetic improvements to Store As screen.
When changing from a Harpsichord program, Harpsichord releases could be heard in other program under certain circumstances. Fixed.
Values were cut off in Morph display for Delay rate. Fixed.
Storing to a Live location could cause "Out of range" message, under certain circumstances.
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby maurich » 13 Aug 2018, 15:19

For example- in new update they can offer velocity curves for NS3compact, so we can play pianos on master keyboard with weighted keys...
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Re: Ns3. New os When ??

Postby Schulti » 13 Aug 2018, 15:20

macco00 wrote:[*]
It is the moment for update nord stage 3 os. Please nord you can do it.


Today its the day ;)
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