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Poor Pablo

Postby pablomastodon » 11 Oct 2019, 10:54

please note: I wrote this while steaming mad in mid-July and have been wavering on whether to post from that time. Since I'm burning things anyway tonight and not able to sleep (approaching 5am here), I guess I might as well throw another log on the fire:

There comes a time when one must speak one’s conviction. For me that time has now arrived with the latest bit of bile spewed by the one whose name used to be DRUMPF.

Some may feel that this is not an appropriate forum for this, and perhaps there is an aspect of validity to that view. However, I have read the forum rules three times and not found any prohibition of this sort of post. It is not my intention to conduct any lengthy thread discussion about this, only to make this one public statement of my mind, and to invite others to do the same. My personal conscience demands this. I will not comment further on this thread, but applaud those whose sympathies are in alignment with my own. To those of opposite opinion, cast aside the layers of brain-washing propaganda you’ve been consuming for too many years and wake up to reality.

I remember well the choruses of “love it or leave it” commonly spouted 50 years ago around Vietnam War protests. It is sometimes said that those who ignore history are destined to repeat it. And now we are hearing the echoes of the same thing half a century later.

Of the four women being asked to 'go back where you came from,' three were born in the USA. The fourth emigrated to the USA as a refugee from a hostile, war-torn environment as a ten-year-old child. My father emigrated to the USA as a refugee from a hostile, soon-to-be war-torn environment as a ten-year-old child. So this feels somewhat personal for me.

Accordingly, it is no longer possible for me to stand quietly by, keeping my personal thoughts to myself. There is no possibility of normalizing this evil, no possibility of reconciling with it, no possibility of tolerating it. The music which spoke to me in the 60's was protest music. The music which called to me in the 70's was the music of racial, social and economic justice coming out of Jamaica. It still does. When one finds oneself with the instruments of influence, one is obligated to use it in a positive sense or pay the consequence. Music and microphones are our instruments of influence. Use them in a positive sense. (respek due to Tony Rebel)

In an earlier life I signed up to have my head shaven and to march around in a uniform carrying an M1. Boot camp was a parade of yelling drill sergeants telling us that we were “lower than whale s***.” (presumably whale droppings fall to the very bottom of the ocean). The ladder has not yet been made which is long enough for Drumpf to rise to that level. By any measure, the fact of his ascendance in politricks has been and continues to be an unrestrained, unmitigated disaster of global proportions. The repercussions of this will certainly continue to reverberate around the world for decades to come. Each day seemingly brings a new crisis which dwarfs yesterday's bad news.

The only hope for salvation is that this pendulum which has swung to this extreme will soon commence to overswing in the opposite direction to compensate. This will not happen by itself. Good things do not happen by accident. They require the efforts of good people. Therefore, I call upon all good people to do whatever you can, large or small, in this effort. More than anything else, be not silent. Make it happen. The whole world’s watching.

A war against hatred fought with more hatred will never be won. Only love can conquer hate.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby JXrays » 11 Oct 2019, 11:08

Great post Pablo, and almost every day the latest news from "countries which aren't USA" confirms your position. That is, for people who can distinguish what a real fact is.

As a citizen of a country with a so-called leader who has recently been trying to emulate the orange-faced guy who says he has "seven billion ******* dollars in the bank" (NUF members might like to google that soundbite - I have loaded it to my Electro 5D!), I find some comfort in posts like this from US citizens. [Correction - not a US citizen? Sorry].
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby sus_4 » 11 Oct 2019, 14:22

pablomastodon wrote:[i]It is not my intention to conduct any lengthy thread discussion about this, only to make this one public statement of my mind, and to invite others to do the same. My personal conscience demands this. I will not comment further on this thread, but applaud those whose sympathies are in alignment with my own. To those of opposite opinion, cast aside the layers of brain-washing propaganda you’ve been consuming for too many years and wake up to reality.


In other words... I like you if you agree with me, but if not, you suck. How tolerant of you, Pablo.

This isn't the place for your political rants. But, carry on. Let's see where this takes us.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby Spider » 11 Oct 2019, 14:51

I feel your pain Pablo. I'm from Italy, the crossroads of the Mediterranean and of the various migrant crisis from Africa, Asia and the Middle East.
Here, you can feel and breathe hatred and fear. The ghosts of less than 2 generations ago are taking shape again, like Sauron or Voldemort. Only this is not a fairytale.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby pablomastodon » 11 Oct 2019, 14:55

sus_4 wrote:
pablomastodon wrote:[i]It is not my intention to conduct any lengthy thread discussion about this, only to make this one public statement of my mind, and to invite others to do the same. My personal conscience demands this. I will not comment further on this thread, but applaud those whose sympathies are in alignment with my own. To those of opposite opinion, cast aside the layers of brain-washing propaganda you’ve been consuming for too many years and wake up to reality.


In other words... I like you if you agree with me, but if not, you suck. How tolerant of you, Pablo.

This isn't the place for your political rants. But, carry on. Let's see where this takes us.


don't put words in my mouth -- I didn't say "suck." I said woefully misguided and need to wake up.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby Tracii » 11 Oct 2019, 14:56

sus_4 wrote:
pablomastodon wrote:[i]It is not my intention to conduct any lengthy thread discussion about this, only to make this one public statement of my mind, and to invite others to do the same. My personal conscience demands this. I will not comment further on this thread, but applaud those whose sympathies are in alignment with my own. To those of opposite opinion, cast aside the layers of brain-washing propaganda you’ve been consuming for too many years and wake up to reality.


In other words... I like you if you agree with me, but if not, you suck.

Where did you read that?

There's no hostility in Pablo's post. Nowhere near!

//Pablo beat me to it...
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby sus_4 » 11 Oct 2019, 15:13

Tracii wrote:There's no hostility in Pablo's post. Nowhere near!


There is no hostility in my reply.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby sus_4 » 11 Oct 2019, 15:15

pablomastodon wrote:
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pablomastodon wrote:[i]I will not comment further on this thread,...


You don't say?
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby Tracii » 11 Oct 2019, 15:24

sus_4 wrote:
Tracii wrote:There's no hostility in Pablo's post. Nowhere near!


There is no hostility in my reply.

Indeed. But that's not what I wrote, and you know that.
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Re: Poor Pablo

Postby Schorsch » 11 Oct 2019, 15:30

sus_4 wrote:This isn't the place for your political rants. But, carry on. Let's see where this takes us.


Interesting - calling Pablo's post a political rant makes me wonder how you would call the speeches and messages of the person Pablo talks about ........ maybe you could let us know?
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