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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 25 Oct 2020, 23:45

Hi, Andy-

I just tested this. My NS2C extern section is sending program changes to the NW2-

MSB 0 LSB 0 PC 0-127 changes A11-E55
MSB 0 LSB 1 PC 0-127 changes F11-J55

What gear are you using to send the program changes?

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Postby andy_felon » 26 Oct 2020, 22:56

DJKeys wrote:Hi, Andy-

I just tested this. My NS2C extern section is sending program changes to the NW2-

MSB 0 LSB 0 PC 0-127 changes A11-E55
MSB 0 LSB 1 PC 0-127 changes F11-J55

What gear are you using to send the program changes?

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I tried daw studio one.
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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 26 Oct 2020, 23:27

Have you followed these instructions? The MSB and LSB choices should be available for external HW-

https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... e-Devices-


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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby tsss27 » 14 Nov 2020, 09:22

A few questions:

1. Does the EQ work on the drive effect, for taming high frequencies, or is it actually before the drive in the signal path? Hopefully after...

2. If you set up a morph to control volume, say via pedal, and the patch has the drive effect, does the drive get softer as you lower the volume? The tone should change, not just volume; it's not the same as just lowering the volume knob on the unit for example.

3. When morphing pitch, I see that both semitones and fine tune can be chosen. When using semitone as a morph source, does it step in semitones or is it smooth? Think setting up a wammy effect via pedal or mod wheel, since as far as I know, the pitch stick's bend range must be the same for both up and down.
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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 14 Nov 2020, 18:47

Here are a few answers for you:

1. The EQ is post-Drive. It affects both bass and treble frequencies, in standard or parametric mode.
2. The volume morph affects the EQ and drive equally, it lowers the volume but does not change the tone of the EQ/Drive setting.
3. When morphing pitch in semitones, it is smooth with no stepping.
4. The Pitch bend range is plus or minus 12 semitones in either direction. There are also two additional settings, +2/-12 and +2/-24

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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby baekgaard » 14 Nov 2020, 18:55

[Looks like @DJKeys and I typed a reply at the same time -- possibly reaching different conclusion on the first point]

1. I'm not sure if my experiment is completely valid, but when I'm playing a sine wave at A3 (220 Hz) and put the EQ as a parametric filter at 222 Hz and attenuate it at -15dB and vary it to +15 dB and with drive at +10, I hear the tone going from mildly driven to full overdrive, i.e. the overtones are strongly affected. This should NOT be the case if the filter is post-EQ and hence seem to indicate that the EQ is placed before the drive (as also indicated by the order of the knobs top-down). I'm curious what @DJKeys bases his conclusion on; I could be wrong of course :-)

2. No, the morph only affects the volume. But if you want the amount of drive to be morphed, you can just add a morph on the drive button too and then you get exactly what you're after.

3. Both semitone and fine tune are morphed continously.
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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 14 Nov 2020, 19:00

Pretty much on the same page as Baekgaard. I used a saw wave, as it has more frequencies and it definitely seemed to me that the EQ (both bass and treble, or parametric) affected the tone of the drive. There is also an issue (which I discussed in my original first impressions thread) that the drive effect seems to target some frequencies much more than others, so getting the right drive effect for me is still difficult (unlike the NS3). The filter drive seems much more useful than the EQ section drive. This may yield some different results as well. In my opinion, this is a minor issue in use with many workarounds-

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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby baekgaard » 14 Nov 2020, 19:04

I also started with a saw wave, but it's hard (for me) to hear what is impacted since it has a lot of overtones. A sine does not have any overtones, obviously, so the only thing that is affected by the parametric EQ is just the level (if it is on the input side). Now, putting it at 222 Hz means it has very minimal impact on tones above 1 kHz (say), but when I sweep from -15 dB to +15 dB I hear a LOT of high frequency content being added -- and it cannot come from filter since it doesn't really attenuate the high frequency setting...

So I think the EQ may be pre-drive, eh?

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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 14 Nov 2020, 19:07

I will check this out. I just use my ears, so my conclusions may be technically incorrect, but the audio effect in the real world seems close enough for me!
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Re: Nord Wave 2 introduced :)

Postby DJKeys » 14 Nov 2020, 19:18

baekgaard wrote:I also started with a saw wave, but it's hard (for me) to hear what is impacted since it has a lot of overtones. A sine does not have any overtones, obviously, so the only thing that is affected by the parametric EQ is just the level (if it is on the input side). Now, putting it at 222 Hz means it has very minimal impact on tones above 1 kHz (say), but when I sweep from -15 dB to +15 dB I hear a LOT of high frequency content being added -- and it cannot come from filter since it doesn't really attenuate the high frequency setting...

So I think the EQ may be pre-drive, eh?


OK, I just performed your test, and you are correct that the drive does come after the EQ, which actually makes sense. In most situations you would want EQ first and other effects later. However, because of the flexibility of the design, you can pretty much get any tones you like out of this instrument. Again, since the Drive affects different frequencies in different ways (my one complaint) it is easy to use it and the EQ together to get the tone result you want-

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