Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

Post by Hlaalu »

sirtobi wrote: But up to now no one has been able to explain to me why my Stage, Wave and Electro have the option to switch the CC/PC on and off (send and receive), although it doesn't work. Why is this setting offered at all?
I see this post now. I can't speak for the Wave 2 or the Electro, but do check the NS3 bug thread, and you'll find there is a bug that makes the S3 ignore the very settings you are talking about. If MIDI is set on the Global channel, it will receive and process PC messages regardless of that setting. I am not sure if this affects CC messages as well though, but from what you say it seems it does.

By the way they already fixed this for the Wave 2 and for the Electro 6 with a recent update, and we are hoping for the next Stage 3 OS update to include the same fix -- and to be released soonish.
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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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PC send and receive now actually work with the Wave 2, but CC messages are still sent and received as soon as global midi is switched on. The problem should be known. Why is it not fixed, it already exists in the Electro 5.
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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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I use Dual KB mode and have no problem playing organ on wave 2 keyboard from my stage 3! Try DKB and make sure on same MIDI channel!! Wave 2 keybed is awesome for organ playing !
Hlaalu

Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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sirtobi wrote:PC send and receive now actually work with the Wave 2, but CC messages are still sent and received as soon as global midi is switched on. The problem should be known. Why is it not fixed, it already exists in the Electro 5.
Do you mean that PC messages now comply to the actual setting (Send / Receive / Both / Neither) but not CC messages, in that they are always sent and received if on the Global channel?

If it is so, they didn't really fix it properly I'm afraid...
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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

Post by taxman »

I test the following setting...
NS3 with sutstain and control pedal:
sending progch via extern =>NW2 => ok
sending controlpedal messages to single or serveral laver => ok
play layer of the NW2 via extern => ok

NW2: play organ with the NS3 in dual kb mode => ok

It works fine.
NS3: Midi => Global Ch NS3 = off panel A = 2 panel B = 3 dualkb = 4, CC and PC send
Extern => Midi Ch Usage per prgramm, Panel per programm Midi = 4, device and pedal as requested, send on load = on, MSB/LSB/PC as requested, don´t
forget volume > 0
NW2: Midi: Global Ch = 4, layer channel = off, control change as requested (CC and PC for changing programm
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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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I use the NW2 as 2nd Keyboard on top of a NS2. In my setup the NW2 shall control a Korg M3 module in a way that I can decide in every Program which Layer controls the internal sound of the NW2 and which Layer controls the external Korg M3.
To allow this, I need to switch the Global MIDI channel off. But this then also disables the possibility to switch the Programs of the NW2 via MIDI Program Change.

SOLUTION:
I recognized that also if the Global MIDI channel is switched off, the Program can still be switched by the Nord Sound Manager via USB.
So I reverse-engineered the USB communication with Wireshark and wrote a python script that can switch NW2 programs via USB.
I put this on a Raspberry Pi and added additionally a USB-MIDI-cable to the Pi. With this USB-MIDI-cable I can receive Program change messages via MIDI and translate them to the special USB format that the NW2 expects to switch the Program.
With this box I now can switch NW2 programs also if the Global MIDI channel is switched off ;-)
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Re: Midi-Solution for the Wave2 and the Stage3?

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Hardwood wrote: So I reverse-engineered the USB communication with Wireshark and wrote a python script that can switch NW2 programs via USB.
I put this on a Raspberry Pi and added additionally a USB-MIDI-cable to the Pi. With this USB-MIDI-cable I can receive Program change messages via MIDI and translate them to the special USB format that the NW2 expects to switch the Program.
With this box I now can switch NW2 programs also if the Global MIDI channel is switched off ;-)
Impressive. Nice work! Would you mind sharing the code? (I'm about to incorporate a Raspberry Pi into my setup to use https://rocketshow.net/ for backing tracks.)
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