Detuning the synth globally to 432

[Keith stephens]

Hi there,

Avoiding all the debates surrounding the 432hz tuning, I need help. I am playing with a group who tunes this way and they are very good. That said, I cannot figure out how to retune my nord wave2 to the 432hz standard. Obviously 440 is built in. Most keyboards I’ve used have a global tuning feature which allows us to adjust the tuning to accommodate for various tuning standards around the world. Being in the rock/world beat/percussion realm, many of the musicians I perform with use different tuning standards and I cannot be expected to force a large group of musicians to conform to 440, or to me, regardless of any beliefs or debates about the superiority of 432 or 440. I just want to able to adjust my wave2 according to the group and demands of the performance.

Can anyone help with this issue?

[catosim]

Why on earth don’t you read the manual, easy search, page 32.
The Wave2 can fine-tune +/- 50 cents, and 432 Hz means you’ll have to decrease about 32 cents (also an easy Google-search).

[Keith stephens]

Why on earth don’t you read the manual, easy search, page 32.
The Wave2 can fine-tune +/- 50 cents, and 432 Hz means you’ll have to decrease about 32 cents (also an easy Google-search).

I know, I did that first but my experience was it only changed the individual note and not the entire keyboard. I will go ahead and try that again maybe I missed something. Thanks for your response!

[Hlaalu]

This is not a provocative question, but I am just curious. Why do they tune their instruments to A = 432 Hz? Do they have the usual set of beliefs associated with this practice, or is there something else?

[FZiegler]

I know, I did that first but my experience was it only changed the individual note and not the entire keyboard.

I don't think you have the possibility of changing individual notes (micro tuning) on any Nord. And it's probably not a per program or a layer setting, either. Right? Would be nice if we had a clear tuning info on the forum.

[Spider]

This is not a provocative question, but I am just curious. Why do they tune their instruments to A = 432 Hz? Do they have the usual set of beliefs associated with this practice, or is there something else?

I also wonder, would anybody in the band or audience notice if one of the instruments was playing at 440?
It's not such a big difference that you hear it as clearly out of tune if you're not paying attention. And even then, in the context of a large ensemble I guess that the individual detunings of each instrument/player are much more significant.

[Hlaalu]

It's not such a big difference that you hear it as clearly out of tune if you're not paying attention. And even then, in the context of a large ensemble I guess that the individual detunings of each instrument/player are much more significant.

Uhm, no I think 432 vs 400 is already big enough a gap that you'd definitely hear that "something" is a bit out of tune, unless the instrument is very low in the mix.

What would not be hearable is the difference between the same tune played at A = 440 and then at A = 432. Unless you have a (very refined) absolute pitch, nobody would know, and even someone with absolute pitch, they would "know" but there wouldn't be a substantial difference in terms of artistic outcome, as if there would definitely be if the song was played, say, a few semitones down.

[Hlaalu]

I don't think you have the possibility of changing individual notes (micro tuning) on any Nord. And it's probably not a per program or a layer setting, either. Right? Would be nice if we had a clear tuning info on the forum.

On the Stage 3, this setting is global only, althought being the tuning in cents, 432,0 Hz isn't achievable. You can only approximate it.

[FZiegler]

As hlaalu, I'm convinced a third of a semitone (432 vs 440 Hz) is absolutely dissatisfactory. It's about double the deviation of pitch than single notes have in even temperament from natural temperament. Which may sound horrible (or muddy) from time to time if you play together with someone playing natural notes. And it's double the amount of deviation I'm able to clearly attribute ('lower'/'higher') in tuning - even if my hearing isn't that much trained.

What I wanted to know is if the Wave 2 behaves the same as my Stage 3 - so if Fine Tune is global. Just for completion of the thread.

[Nordlicht]

What I wanted to know is if the Wave 2 behaves the same as my Stage 3 - so if Fine Tune is global. Just for completion of the thread.

It was earlier already confirmed by catosim. And the sound menu is always a global setting - and it remains in this tuning even after powering off (at least that is the case with my Piano 5)!
See the manual, it's the same with all Nord instruments:

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