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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby FZiegler » 08 Oct 2022, 10:04

Guess he means screen output.
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby WannitBBBad » 08 Oct 2022, 14:22

Eriknie wrote:I needed a way to import a set of wav files with loop points. Looping them in the Nord Sample Editor did not work and made audible fase, volume drops.
I noticed that the .nsmpproj files are just text files. So I wrote a small program that checked all included wav files and transfers the loop points...

Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be beneficial to those creating/saving looped WAV files with other apps (something that some audio editors can't do). So far all of my looped samples have been created using NSE4. Nord has made it easy to create looped samples but as you noted, the results sometimes are not good and take a bit of work to get to a better place. The automated features work well for samples with chorus or other similar effects where the X-Fade phasing is not noticeable, but cleaner samples sometimes require turning off some or all of those features (snap to phase, level envelope, X-Fade minimum or off) to achieve a nice loop. You have to turn off Snap to Phase for example to select your own zero crossings. You might have found all this out as you worked with NSE4, but I thought the info might be helpful for others who haven't worked with it much. Thanks again, take care.
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby Eriknie » 08 Oct 2022, 15:48

I agree that most of the time the Nord Sample Editor works well enough. When I have large sample sets, some external tooling (like mentioned in the first post) work quicker and more reliable. Then my tools comes in handy. I also had trouble getting decent loops out of a few samples that looped better with other tools.

So my workflow is: first try with the Nord Sample Editor, if that doesn't work, use other loop tool and my fixloop tool

And yes, I was talking about the screen output of the tool. If you run the script it generates output. This gives info if the loops are detected in the wavs.
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby mattrobertson » 08 Oct 2022, 17:19

hi Eriknie
I'm sorry to ask what probably seem to you as very silly questions.... but I am totally new to the whole Python world so please be patient with me :)
I dont know how to output the srceen of the python script - I am just running it in terminal to generate the new _project.nsmpproj, but I don't know how to do more than that I'm afraid. I tried to google how to do this but it didn't really help me
I'm sorry and I really appreciate your help :)
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby Eriknie » 08 Oct 2022, 17:28

you can try: python fixloop.py >output.txt
You came a long way in installing Python and getting it to run...

Perhaps it is easier for you to just use the Nord Sample Editor and loop from there
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby mattrobertson » 08 Oct 2022, 17:48

Hi - thanks a lot :)
I use NSE4 for a lot of things, but as you said, for clean loops its not the best, so I was excited to find your solution! When I output the text I just get this:

=============[ juno test.nsmpproj ]=============

but no other info.... :(
So it looks like its either not doing anything, or it cant see the loops?
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby mattrobertson » 08 Oct 2022, 18:10

Ah! you know what,,,, I see part of the problem.
I has all my samples :within a sample folder: .... and in that case I think the script wont find them?
SO I put all the samples in the same level as the fixloop.py and the script seems to run. but then outputs that it cant see the loops. So.... Im doing something wrong. But at least I think the script is running correctly now with the samples in the right place. I will go an investigate more. Thanks so much for your help and sorry for my user error!
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby mattrobertson » 08 Oct 2022, 18:46

hello again! SO I verified that the samples Im using do have loops, I opened them in Endless wav and that app see the loops. I then re-saved them from Endless Wav to make sure, but when I run the script, it says "juno36 (or whatever the filename is) has no loops"
I'm pretty confident everything is in the right place now... I will keep trying. Any ideas?
Thanks so much for your continued support!
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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby mattrobertson » 09 Oct 2022, 03:19

Hi all
So I wondered if there was maybe something up with my Python install, so I tried all these same steps on a different computer and it worked first time! Wow! So cool. No idea why it wasnt working on my laptop, but on my desktop its first class. Thanks so much for this really useful tool!
Also.... I have been making my sample loops in Logic Pros Sampler plugin, which for me is quicker, and it seems to have some very smart "auto loop" tools available. AFAIK its the code from the guy who put KeyMap Pro together all those years ago.
You just have to remember to "Write Loop to Audio" once your done, and Logics Sampler will embed the Loop Data into the WAVs like Endless Wav does. Then all steps as above with fixloop.

Thanks so much for all your help getting this to work... for me this is a huge step forward in how useful and quick the NW2 is to use

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Re: Nord Sample editor importing samples with loop points!!!

Postby WannitBBBad » 09 Oct 2022, 04:12

Thanks for the update mattrobertson!
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