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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby JohnWatkins » 31 Aug 2021, 19:48

maxpiano wrote:Well yes with instruments that support the smooth transition that approach (creating a specific Program for the solo boost) works fine, last Nord I owned was a NS2 which didn't so in that case you find soon that you need to be more "creative" :mrgreen:


It's a Stage 3, so no problem there. It's seamless.
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby CountFosco » 31 Aug 2021, 22:09

maxpiano wrote:last Nord I owned was a NS2


Hang on a seccy. Forum legend, serial problem solver, notorious knower of all things, max "Mr Nord" piano, doesn't own a Nord? How do those crowd funder thingies work?

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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby Berretje » 31 Aug 2021, 23:46

Spider wrote:First of all, it should be the rest of the band giving you space for the solo. Starting a volume war is never the right way.
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Whatever method you use, the most important thing is to NEVER turn back down after the solo, or the guitarists will eat you alive! :twisted:


So then you are starting a volume war right? :lol:
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby Spider » 01 Sep 2021, 10:20

Berretje wrote:
Spider wrote:First of all, it should be the rest of the band giving you space for the solo. Starting a volume war is never the right way.
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Whatever method you use, the most important thing is to NEVER turn back down after the solo, or the guitarists will eat you alive! :twisted:


So then you are starting a volume war right? :lol:


Of course.
Because the rest of the band doesn't give me space for the solo.
:twisted: :lol:

Just joking... in most of the band I've had, I've been lucky to play with other volume-conscious players.
But yes, when the others don't listen and just turn up and up it can be maddening. Actually, one of my main reasons for leaving (or not joining) a band is the volume level and the bandmates not listening to each other and not caring about dynamics.

First red flag: if I have to wear earplugs at rehearsals.
Second red flag: no dynamics, nobody ever talks about volumes.
Final red flag: during a solo, I begin playing quieter and quieter, until I stop playing at all. If nobody even notices, and they just keep plowing on at full blast, then I know it's time to leave.
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby maxpiano » 01 Sep 2021, 10:24

CountFosco wrote:
maxpiano wrote:last Nord I owned was a NS2


Hang on a seccy. Forum legend, serial problem solver, notorious knower of all things, max "Mr Nord" piano, doesn't own a Nord? How do those crowd funder thingies work?


:lol: You rock CountFosco!

Well long story short, I sold my NS2 1 year ago, since for me NS was (and in general is, imho) mainly a keyboard for playing live and I am not doing that any more (pandemic being part of the reason but not the only one) and my "bad habit" is not to keep instruments unused (yes I am the opposite of a collector :roll: ) but as they use to say "never say never again", so who knows? ;-)

Meanwhile I am happy to still be part of NUF and give some help to the other forumers when I can. :)
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby Eriknie » 01 Sep 2021, 11:23

Volume is tricky. I am lucky to have members that listen to each other. We don't have a sound engineer, so it's important to have consistent levels in the band.

In a Mackie manual there was a funny quote on the monitor level knob: "turn this to the right of the singer points his thumb up, you could expect that you have to turn it to the left if the singer points his thumb down, but this never happens"

My take on it is always the same:

  • Use a reference piano sound and reduce the volume to keep enough headroom for other sounds. The piano section of the NS is pretty wel leveled, I always reduce these to -6 in my presets. That is my reference. For soloing piano I just play harder of increase the volume slightly. Controlling the volume of the piano can also be done by changing the density of the chords or the length or amount of chord/space or adding more bottom...
  • All other sounds are controlled with a volume pedal that give me enough control to be in the mix or on top of the mix.

A boost setting that does not change the drive/EQ would be helpful to get thin sounds or not normalized samples on a higher volume level.
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby LeftyBass68 » 02 Sep 2021, 01:28

I hold back external synths solo on.If and when I solo with Nord sounds they are the stacked S62/T57 or T57/LP55 neck samples.
Enough gain in the EP to easily climb over a mix in my experience,pianos too.Great pianos,organs,performance features on the Stage 3.
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby hernjov1 » 02 Sep 2021, 05:05

Hire a sound man!!! Lmao!!!
All kidding aside!
You bought a Stage 3, and it is a LIVE MONSTER when is comes to grabbing a knob to change everything you need on the fly including volume for solos if needed! I agree with the loud guitar player thing, but my band does all in ear monitors. So we adjust our own levels, and our guitarist is a team player so I guess I got lucky there! Lol
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby Schorsch » 02 Sep 2021, 10:42

I let our guitarist do the solos :twisted: that leaves me with no volume issues and get's me 5 minutes per song to have a beer :mrgreen:
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Re: Your preferred solo/boost method for Stage 3

Postby Elias » 02 Sep 2021, 12:34

I just always make my patches first at full volume. Then I use the "volume offset" in the "utility" menu to pull down the volume of all the non-solo patches.

So I just have a non-solo- and a solo-patch for anything that needs both.
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