Nord User Forum

[newhabits]

In the NS3 there's a button for "Preset II". The manual says "two organ presets can be stored in each panel, for each organ model...." It then says to swap between them by pressing the "Preset II" button.

It doesn't say *how* to store the two.

So, *how* do you store those two? And, what are you storing? A program, or the current settings you have set in the organ section, or ...?

(For the record, the description of the Drawbar Live button (NS3 Compact only) is also underwhelming. Any assistance people want to provide on how that works is appreciated.)

[ericL]

I don't have mine running in front of me right now, though I think it is only the drawbar settings plus perc and C/V and you can set these during any Program and then when you store the Program, the settings you made for I and II will be saved. For example, select Preset I and set the drawbars to 808000004 and then select Preset II and set the drawbars to 888653235 with C/V set to C3. Store the program and those will be the settings the next time you select this program.

[Spider]

All information is stored within the Program, which saves all settings relative to each section (not only organ but also piano, synth, external).
So if you are working on a program with, say, a soft organ for the verse and a full "all drawbars out" one for the chorus/solo, you can set up the first as Preset I, then switch to Preset II and set up the second. When you save the Program, all these settings will be saved, so you will be able to recall the program and switch between organ sounds on each verse/chorus change with a single button press, instead of adjusting the drawbars manually or needing to use multiple Program locations for different sounds within the same song.
Additionally, the NS3 "Song Mode" gives you another option: save different programs with the various organ settings you like, and then arrange them in a "song" according to your set list.

[newhabits]

Interesting. I think I get it. Basically, Preset I & II are almost a "last time you used it, it was this" toggle. I'm suspecting Live Mode may be more what I'm looking for given the goal I have.

It's becoming clear that using a NS3 means having a different mindset around your presets/programs. With other synths, you tend to have a program you don't fuss with unless you're being very intentional. In contrast, on the NS3, you're almost *expected* to be constantly changing parameters in a program, and saving. Any long-term preservation of setup of a given program may come from duplicating that program at some other used bank position.

Takes a change in mindset, but I bet I can adjust.

Thanks for the answers.

[ericL]

Interesting. I think I get it. Basically, Preset I & II are almost a "last time you used it, it was this" toggle. I'm suspecting Live Mode may be more what I'm looking for given the goal I have.

It's becoming clear that using a NS3 means having a different mindset around your presets/programs. With other synths, you tend to have a program you don't fuss with unless you're being very intentional. In contrast, on the NS3, you're almost *expected* to be constantly changing parameters in a program, and saving. Any long-term preservation of setup of a given program may come from duplicating that program at some other used bank position.

Takes a change in mindset, but I bet I can adjust.

Thanks for the answers.

The NS3 can cater to either end of the spectrum, or somewhere in between. I very much use it often as the "program you don't fuss with" for dozens and hundreds of Programs I've carefully created for playing in a couple of different bands. Once I get it dialed in just right, I save the program and then it's ready for me to use consistently. As for how this translates to the Preset I and II in the Organ section, I may have a song where I'm playing two very different organ sounds and this is an easy way to have them sitting ready within a program.

Live mode is really for experimenting in the moment where all the settings are fluid.

What's the end goal you have and let us know how we can help you optimize it on the NS3?

[WannitBBBad]

To add to the points above, any morph applied to the drawbars of either preset will also be saved. At the link is a Stage 3 program with the drawbars morphed to the Mod Wheel and the synth set up to emulate more key click when needed. LINK -> nord-stage-3-programs-ns3p-ns3pb-files-f32/hammond-b3-enhanced-key-click-drawbars-on-mw-t17268.html Good luck!

[Scorps]

For me, the preset button gets pressed accidentally too often while switching the Leslie speed or manipulating the drawbars, especially when I'm playing left hand bass, changing the organ sound at random, unsuitable moments. I'm planning to take the button out and grind it down with a dremel so it's there when necessary, but won't get in the way when not meant to.

[stopmakingsense]

in response to Scorps: Or toggle the leslie speed with a the sustain pedal and/or program the preset to the same sound as the non-preset. No dremel grinding necessary. Except I guess if you change the settings while playing, then accidentally hit the Preset button, then maybe I could see your dremel approach:-). I always use the Sustain for the leslie, so accidentally hitting buttons has not been an issue.

[FZiegler]

I'm planning to take the button out and grind it down with a dremel

So much violence in this poor sad world.

Apart from the very valid suggestion of using the pedal for leslie and/or having identical settings for preset I and II, such a drastic modification would reduce the value of your instrument essentially to zero... I would never even consider buying a used Stage (or any instrument, for that matter) which had been dremelized!

[CountFosco]

Interesting. I think I get it. Basically, Preset I & II are almost a "last time you used it, it was this" toggle. I'm suspecting Live Mode may be more what I'm looking for given the goal I have.

It's becoming clear that using a NS3 means having a different mindset around your presets/programs. With other synths, you tend to have a program you don't fuss with unless you're being very intentional. In contrast, on the NS3, you're almost *expected* to be constantly changing parameters in a program, and saving. Any long-term preservation of setup of a given program may come from duplicating that program at some other used bank position.

Takes a change in mindset, but I bet I can adjust.

Thanks for the answers.

Not sure if I'm speaking out of turn, not being a stage owner, or reading the post wrong even though i double taked it, but I think this is a complete misunderstanding of the presets. They are not "last time you used it" settings. They are exactly part of the "program(s) you don't fuss with unless you're being very intentional". You set up your preset 1 and 2 how you want them, you store the program, basta. Next time you select the program, you will find what you stored. That's how programs work on all keyboards.

Live mode is exactly not that. In this sentence "Basically, Preset I & II are almost a "last time you used it, it was this" toggle. I'm suspecting Live Mode may be more what I'm looking for given the goal I have." if you swap the positions of "Preset I & 2" and "Live Mode", you have yourself a coherent sentence.