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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby baekgaard » 24 Nov 2018, 12:07

AlexNagel wrote:
analogika wrote:It feels like it’s back to how the Stage 2 reacted. Sad.


Well I found the NS3 before v1.52 to be overly bright - now it's much easier to play softer while still being able to hit highest velocity with some force = more dynamic range, at least for my style of playing (I hit the keys quite hardly...).

To get back to the brighter sound, you can still apply some EQ or KB VEL 1 or 2..


Please remind me: @analogika, you have a NS3C, right? And what about you, @AlexNagel?

I have the HA88 and like the 1.60 (and 1.5x) very much.
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby AlexNagel » 24 Nov 2018, 12:16

I have the NS3 HA88, and had the NS2 HA88 before. (... and the NS (classic) 76 before that. And the Electro 2 61 before that.... :-)
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby analogika » 24 Nov 2018, 12:27

I have the compact, and the Stage 3 played much nicer and sounded brighter. I was so happy with it in comparison to the Stage 2, as much as aureliopenna hated it. Using keyboard touch 1 or 2 does not achieve the same result.
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby westharp » 24 Nov 2018, 12:36

I made a piano comparison recording between OS 1.4 and 1.6:

Italian Grand XL

Silver Grand L

I used a segment from the famous "pianotest1.mid". String Resonance was ON. Otherwise: no effects, no EQ, no level adjustments.
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby Schorsch » 24 Nov 2018, 12:42

I like the "OS 1.60 pianos" ..... same way Alex Nagel does, even on my NS3 compact
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby AlexNagel » 24 Nov 2018, 12:53

westharp wrote:I made a piano comparison recording between OS 1.4 and 1.6:

Italian Grand XL

Silver Grand L

I used a segment from the famous "pianotest1.mid". String Resonance was ON. Otherwise: no effects, no EQ, no level adjustments.


If you'd phase invert one and play them simultaneously the resulting mix would be the exact difference, maybe you might try this?
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby analogika » 24 Nov 2018, 12:54

westharp wrote:I made a piano comparison recording between OS 1.4 and 1.6:

Italian Grand XL

Silver Grand L

I used a segment from the famous "pianotest1.mid". String Resonance was ON. Otherwise: no effects, no EQ, no level adjustments.

Yep, that exemplifies the dulling-down.

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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby IanzKeys » 24 Nov 2018, 13:40

I prefer the 1.6 versions, plus the NS3 velocity '0' response feels very similar to the NP4 now. For that bright sound, putting the velocity on 2 or 3 with a bit of compression does the trick - for me at least.

I guess it depends entirely on your playing style, and the type of music you're playing as to which you personally prefer.
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby anotherscott » 24 Nov 2018, 14:24

It would be really interesting to see another run of baekgaard's velocty response test with the new OS ( see post99775.html?hilit=scaling#p99775 )
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Re: Perceived change in piano sound since update

Postby leonardo 1 » 24 Nov 2018, 14:29

I'm glad that someone prefers 1.60 .... but on rhodes for example Nefertiti as it sounds according to you without equalization ....? Or the ep 2 or the Mark v ..... For me they are too dark and dark the sound is muffled and with EQ the results are not too satisfying ... Someone had the same feeling? .. Yesterday I went from a my friend who had the NS2 (among other things I always preferred the rhodes flat of the Classic version). I immediately found the right sound and I was in mono !!

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