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nsmp samples..change bank category

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Hi! I have samples in nsmp3 format that I would like to upload to my NS4, but NSM only uploads them to Bank Misc without having the option to change...the problem is that there are only 100 locations..how is it possible to upload them to the other banks? Thank you!!
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orlon wrote:Hi! I have samples in nsmp3 format that I would like to upload to my NS4, but NSM only uploads them to Bank Misc without having the option to change...the problem is that there are only 100 locations..how is it possible to upload them to the other banks? Thank you!!
If you put NSM in "Organize" mode, you'll see all available locations to store your samples and can choose the location where you want the sample. Check the manual as there are different options for managing existing samples. Note that if you delete an existing sample you "break" any programs using it; NSM provides information on how many programs use each sample (see manual in options for replacing). Good luck.
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orlon wrote:Hi! I have samples in nsmp3 format that I would like to upload to my NS4, but NSM only uploads them to Bank Misc without having the option to change...the problem is that there are only 100 locations..how is it possible to upload them to the other banks? Thank you!!
If you put NSM in "Organize" mode, you'll see all available locations to store your samples. The NSM default is to drop a sample in the first available location, so I assume all banks below M are full. In organize mode you can choose the location where you want the sample. Check the manual as there are different options for managing existing samples. Note that if you delete an existing sample you "break" any programs using it; NSM provides information on how many programs use each sample (see manual in options for replacing). Good luck.
Thanks! he strange thing is that all my .nsmp3 samples are loaded into bank Misc and NSM doesn't let me move them..it says "The file "xxxx" is not allowed to be moved from bank "Misc"...it's very strange
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Sample Category is embedded in the .nsmp when it is created, you cannot change it. Maybe that's the reason? Or maybe nsmp v4 has a different way to manage categories, so it considers all previous ones (converted by NSM) as "Misc"?
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maxpiano wrote:Sample Category is emebedded in the .nsmp when it is created, you cannot change it. Maybe that's the reason? Or maybe nsmp v4 has a different way to manage categories, so it considers all previous ones (converted by NSM) as "Misc"?
Thanks Maxpiano..you here too ;-)..yes they are probably all read as Misc..let's hope for some updates, because otherwise it's a big limitation to have only 100 Misc locations and that's it
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orlon wrote:Thanks! The strange thing is that all my .nsmp3 samples are loaded into bank Misc and NSM doesn't let me move them..it says "The file "xxxx" is not allowed to be moved from bank "Misc"...it's very strange
The NS4 and NSM manuals weren't much help, so I looked at the NS4 backup file to understand the sample storage. My NS3 has all of the samples saved in one place (no "banks") with NSM by default saving each new sample to the first available memory location. It appears that with the Piano 5, NW2, and NS4, Nord now places samples based upon their categories. It's odd that there's a limit to the number allowed in "Misc", and maybe any other category. I would suggest contacting Clavia as I haven't found any documentation on it. Good luck!

Edit: added NW2 above
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orlon wrote:Thanks! The strange thing is that all my .nsmp3 samples are loaded into bank Misc and NSM doesn't let me move them..it says "The file "xxxx" is not allowed to be moved from bank "Misc"...it's very strange
The NS4 and NSM manuals weren't much help, so I looked at the NS4 backup file to understand the sample storage. My NS3 has all of the samples saved in one place (no "banks") with NSM by default saving each new sample to the first available memory location. It appears that with the Piano 5 and NS4, Nord now places samples based upon their categories. It's odd that there's a limit to the number allowed in "Misc", and maybe any other category. I would suggest contacting Clavia as I haven't found any documentation on it. Good luck!
Thanks! I wrote to Nord..let's see if they answer me..
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This is another feature of the new Nord Stage architecture, based on the Nord Wave 2. Categories cannot be changed (yet) and samples can only be downloaded to a specific category.

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DJKeys wrote:This is another feature of the new Nord Stage architecture, based on the Nord Wave 2. Categories cannot be changed (yet) and samples can only be downloaded to a specific category.

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Do you know of any limit on the number of samples that can be placed in the NW2 under the category "Misc" or any other?
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WannitBBBad wrote:
DJKeys wrote:This is another feature of the new Nord Stage architecture, based on the Nord Wave 2. Categories cannot be changed (yet) and samples can only be downloaded to a specific category.

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Do you know of any limit on the number of samples that can be placed in the NW2 under the category "Misc" or any other?
Yes, each category (even Accordian :) ) has 100 slots for samples. There are 26 categories including User, Misc, and Undefined, what ever that is.

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