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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby Schroederonline » 31 Jul 2022, 15:42

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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby Toetsenmoen » 27 Apr 2023, 12:31

Hi, MSB and LSB works, but the highest program I can select is E:55. Above is not working (for example PC107, MSB 0, LSB 2 should switch me to O23, but it doesn't. Using Mainstage by the way.
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby FZiegler » 27 Apr 2023, 15:08

Did you send it in that order? Usually, it should be MSB, LSB, PC as far as I know. The PC you send will always be selected within the current bank (defined by MSB and LSB) - won't work if you set LSB only after PC.

If you only want to send program numbers, you could leave out the MSB=0 as it's always the same. But it's not a bad idea to set it anyway - so it's under all circumstances (manually having been in live or song mode before) the correct address.
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby maxpiano » 27 Apr 2023, 15:48

Toetsenmoen wrote:Hi, MSB and LSB works, but the highest program I can select is E:55. Above is not working (for example PC107, MSB 0, LSB 2 should switch me to O23, but it doesn't. Using Mainstage by the way.


Ensure Mainstage is actually sending also MSB/LSB and not only the PC. Take a look also at this app for converting NS3 Programs to the right combination https://www.schroederonline.de/midimapper
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby Toetsenmoen » 28 Apr 2023, 09:39

Thanks for your replies. I can send the codes that switch program numbers both in Programm mode and in Song mode. So all is working fine, but limited to E:55 as the highest program number.
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby maxpiano » 28 Apr 2023, 09:50

Toetsenmoen wrote:Thanks for your replies. I can send the codes that switch program numbers both in Programm mode and in Song mode. So all is working fine, but limited to E:55 as the highest program number.


Do you have the CtrlChange receiving enabled on your NS3 (in the MIDI menu)? If not, MSB and LSB will not be received and that explains why you stop at E55 = PC 125/LSB=0
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby Toetsenmoen » 28 Apr 2023, 13:58

Yes, both CC and PC are on Receive.
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby maxpiano » 28 Apr 2023, 14:47

Toetsenmoen wrote:Yes, both CC and PC are on Receive.


Then I suggest again to check with a MIDI Monitor like https://www.snoize.com/midimonitor/ that Mainstage is really sending all data and in the right order (MSB, LSB then PC).

Check also that you have "Sending Bank Select" enabled in the Mainstage External channel strip related to NS3
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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby Toetsenmoen » 01 May 2023, 21:13

Hi Maxpiano,

Thanks. And Yes, I have Send Program change on and Send Bank Select On. And it is working, I can switch between programm mode and song mode.
However, E55 is the very max I can select with PC 124, Bank OFF, 000. So, no option to select F11 and further. Whatever I tried, nothing works.

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Re: NS3 Update And Song Mode MSB/LSB Program Selection

Postby FZiegler » 01 May 2023, 22:13

A switch between program and song mode is done by MSB, selecting a bank above E:55 in program mode would have to be effected through a change in LSB. So you can't say for sure: It works as it switches between program and song mode. Checking with a MIDI monitor software would still be a good idea in my eyes.
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