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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
I was on v2.02 OS. Just upgraded to the latest OS. I also specifically set 122 close and 60/40 balance. Sounds great in Chroal Leslie mode. Not 100% happy with Tremolo mode. I guess it's related to the Leslie Sim. Anyway It sounds good enough. Quite happy with it.
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
I think the improvement comes from the change to close mic and 60/40 balance, the optimization in the OS was done a couple of releases before 2.02
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
Latecomer to this thread. The distortion on the effects session (for some reason) is observably better than the Leslie one. Maybe they're just trying to be faithful to the original, can't say. I recently have ditched my Neo Vent II because the native Leslie sim plus the effects section distortion floats my boat just that much better with less gear involved.
I think I have gear issues ....
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
whitenoise wrote:I was on v2.02 OS. Just upgraded to the latest OS. I also specifically set 122 close and 60/40 balance. Sounds great in Chroal Leslie mode. Not 100% happy with Tremolo mode. I guess it's related to the Leslie Sim. Anyway It sounds good enough. Quite happy with it.
For a B3 with the Leslie speed on the Mod Wheel, I've played around with assigning the organ to the Tremolo effect as well and morphing the rate to the Mod Wheel so that the Tremolo speed matches the fast Leslie speed. The result is a little more of a pulsing effect to the organ sound - you might like it. Take care.
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
WannitBBBad wrote:whitenoise wrote:I was on v2.02 OS. Just upgraded to the latest OS. I also specifically set 122 close and 60/40 balance. Sounds great in Chroal Leslie mode. Not 100% happy with Tremolo mode. I guess it's related to the Leslie Sim. Anyway It sounds good enough. Quite happy with it.
For a B3 with the Leslie speed on the Mod Wheel, I've played around with assigning the organ to the Tremolo effect as well and morphing the rate to the Mod Wheel so that the Tremolo speed matches the fast Leslie speed. The result is a little more of a pulsing effect to the organ sound - you might like it. Take care.
Thanks for advice. Will try. I've been using NS2 for quite a while. I guess I'm a bit stuck to its sound. I play B3 just time to time. It's totally different story but too heavy and pricey. So I give a credit to B3 clones. The modern ones are so close.
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
Wow. Looks like GSI VB3-II is out. https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=44
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
The GSi VB3-II has been out for a while.
I have a GSi Gemini Desktop which uses the VB3-II engine (along with superb Rhodes, Wurli etc. and excellent effects including a really cool JCM emulation).
The sheer number of adjustable parameters on the Leslie sim is staggering (Drive, independent Horn/Rotor slow/fast speeds and ramp up/down times, Rotor/Horn balance, Leakage, Mic angle/distance and loads more plus, in particular, the recently introduced Tube Feedback which simply ROCKS!) and the fact that you can choose 21 different Hammond tonewheel generators (B3s, C3s, A100s from the 50s, 60s & 70s) with 7 variations of cut/boost for each one means that if you can't get a truly awesome Hammond sound that fits your style, be it jazz, prog, blues, rock or Purple, then you REALLY aren't trying very hard!!
I love my NS3 for acoustic piano, synth, mellotron, sampled instruments and bread and butter organ pad sounds (like Tony Banks' early Genesis or Rick Wright's Floyd) but for overdriven Keith Emerson, Tony Kaye (early Yes), Focus, Lachy Doley or anything needing chorale/tremolo and/or searing overdrive, then this beast shines!
And when I want to go all Jon Lord, the VB3-II engine is an absolute monster!!
Don't get me wrong, the NS3, with current software, is still a fantastic B3 emulation and I'm happy to use it on it's own, but GSi's latest emulation takes things to a whole new level...!
I have a GSi Gemini Desktop which uses the VB3-II engine (along with superb Rhodes, Wurli etc. and excellent effects including a really cool JCM emulation).
The sheer number of adjustable parameters on the Leslie sim is staggering (Drive, independent Horn/Rotor slow/fast speeds and ramp up/down times, Rotor/Horn balance, Leakage, Mic angle/distance and loads more plus, in particular, the recently introduced Tube Feedback which simply ROCKS!) and the fact that you can choose 21 different Hammond tonewheel generators (B3s, C3s, A100s from the 50s, 60s & 70s) with 7 variations of cut/boost for each one means that if you can't get a truly awesome Hammond sound that fits your style, be it jazz, prog, blues, rock or Purple, then you REALLY aren't trying very hard!!
I love my NS3 for acoustic piano, synth, mellotron, sampled instruments and bread and butter organ pad sounds (like Tony Banks' early Genesis or Rick Wright's Floyd) but for overdriven Keith Emerson, Tony Kaye (early Yes), Focus, Lachy Doley or anything needing chorale/tremolo and/or searing overdrive, then this beast shines!
And when I want to go all Jon Lord, the VB3-II engine is an absolute monster!!
Don't get me wrong, the NS3, with current software, is still a fantastic B3 emulation and I'm happy to use it on it's own, but GSi's latest emulation takes things to a whole new level...!
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Re: NS3 B3: Leslie Overdrive vs EQ section overdrive...
Hobster wrote:The GSi VB3-II has been out for a while.
I have a GSi Gemini Desktop which uses the VB3-II engine (along with superb Rhodes, Wurli etc. and excellent effects including a really cool JCM emulation).
The sheer number of adjustable parameters on the Leslie sim is staggering (Drive, independent Horn/Rotor slow/fast speeds and ramp up/down times, Rotor/Horn balance, Leakage, Mic angle/distance and loads more plus, in particular, the recently introduced Tube Feedback which simply ROCKS!) and the fact that you can choose 21 different Hammond tonewheel generators (B3s, C3s, A100s from the 50s, 60s & 70s) with 7 variations of cut/boost for each one means that if you can't get a truly awesome Hammond sound that fits your style, be it jazz, prog, blues, rock or Purple, then you REALLY aren't trying very hard!!
I love my NS3 for acoustic piano, synth, mellotron, sampled instruments and bread and butter organ pad sounds (like Tony Banks' early Genesis or Rick Wright's Floyd) but for overdriven Keith Emerson, Tony Kaye (early Yes), Focus, Lachy Doley or anything needing chorale/tremolo and/or searing overdrive, then this beast shines!
And when I want to go all Jon Lord, the GSi-II engine is an absolute monster!!
Don't get me wrong, the NS3, with current software, is still a fantastic B3 emulation and I'm happy to use it on it's own, but GSi's latest emulation takes things to a whole new level...!
Are you using it for gigs? Is there another point to buy a HW ver if you can get all the SW running on your laptop?
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