NS 3 - Midi CC Rotor Pedal!

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NS 3 - Midi CC Rotor Pedal!

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Does the NS3 rotor pedal send Midi CC to extern midi device (f.e. B3x app on iOS)?
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Re: NS 3 - Midi CC Rotor Pedal!

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According to the MIDI chart in the manual, it should be CC108 - for rotary speed. Independently from where the change came from (foot switch, button...). I didn't test it, though.
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Re: NS 3 - Midi CC Rotor Pedal!

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I think, that's only for receive Midi CC, but transmitting?
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NS should also transmit it, if "Send CC" is enabled in the MIDI Menu of course.
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But only on the Global channel!
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A MIDI implementation chart should state which commands are transmitted and which recognised, but Clavia only offers the CC list. I interpret it in that way that all commands are both transmitted and recognised. And up to now, everything worked.
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As Hiaalu says, the NS3 only transmits the Rotor On/Off CC message on the Global channel. This goes for all the panel knobs & switches too.
You can individualy enable transmission on the Extern channel for Wheel/AfterTouch/PitchStick/CtrlPed/SwellPed/Volume and Sustain Pedal although these also always get sent out on the Global channel...
This is why I've built a MIDI filter based on an Arduino-style microprocessor (fitted inside my Stage 3) that transmits all panel data on the current Extern Channel instead and also blocks any CC messages from going out on the Global channel.
I've been meaning to put details of the project (which I use to control a KeyboardPartner HX3 and, previously, a GSi Gemini module) up on this forum. Hopefully I can get round to it in the next few weeks or so...
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Very interesting project Hobster!
Hobster wrote: You can individualy enable transmission on the Extern channel for Wheel/AfterTouch/PitchStick/CtrlPed/SwellPed/Volume and Sustain
Since there's also the possibility of sending any other CC (one at once though), the OP may consider sending the rotor speed through the Extern section, which also doesn't have the inconvenience of sending all CCs indiscriminately, as it happens on the Global channel.
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Hlaalu wrote:Since there's also the possibility of sending any other CC (one at once though), the OP may consider sending the rotor speed through the Extern section, which also doesn't have the inconvenience of sending all CCs indiscriminately, as it happens on the Global channel.
True although wouldn't he then have to use the Extern Value knob (instead of the rotor pedal) to actually send out the CC?
I can't test this as my MIDI filter is effectively hard-wired and so is always on; luckily, I don't plan on ever selling my NS3 :lol:
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Hobster wrote: True although wouldn't he then have to use the Extern Value knob (instead of the rotor pedal) to actually send out the CC?:
Yes but it can be worked around by morphing it with the wheel or the pedal -- of course assuming that the needs no other CCs to be sent as he tweaks the knobs. This is an area where the inconvenience of the MIDI implementation of the Stage 3 is felt yet again...
Hobster wrote: I can't test this as my MIDI filter is effectively hard-wired and so is always on; luckily, I don't plan on ever selling my NS3 :lol:
That could actually turn out to be an added value! :D
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